Weekend Contest ‘Prediction On RIM/NTP Case’

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This weekend’s contest is entitled ‘Prediction on RIM/NTP Case’. As you may know, RIM stocks have taken a major hit due to their never ending patent infringement case with NTP. If not, a very short summary is NTP sues RIM for patent infringement, court finds RIM guilty, RIM appeals but then decide to settle for $450 million, NTP patents are rejected, RIM doesn’t want to pay now and wants a new trial, US Court of Appeal rejects RIM’s request, RIMM stock falls to 52-week low, and now Blackberry sales in the US are threaten. So post your thoughts on what you think will happen with the case, will RIM payup or will NTP patents get rejected by the Supreme Court.

This weekend’s prize will be three copies of Sudoku Gold, the new Sudoku game from Magmic.

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  • Kyle

    Call me naive, but I think RIM will end up winning this case without paying NTP a dime. NTP and the companies like NTP is what’s the problem with the US patent system. RIM has many friends regarding this issue, including their competitor Microsoft. They don’t want to see NTP win and set a precedence, that rewards patent horders.

    And yes I am very confident, I have a lot of money riding on RIM coming out victorious.

  • Kyle

    Call me naive, but I think RIM will end up winning this case without paying NTP a dime. NTP and the companies like NTP is what’s the problem with the US patent system. RIM has many friends regarding this issue, including their competitor Microsoft. They don’t want to see NTP win and set a precedence, that rewards patent horders.

    And yes I am very confident, I have a lot of money riding on RIM coming out victorious.

  • Jim Bask

    RIM will prevail. They’re too big a company to have a legal team that gives them such bad advice.

  • Jim Bask

    RIM will prevail. They’re too big a company to have a legal team that gives them such bad advice.

  • Joe Stevenson

    I think NTP wins some sort of scaled back judgment, but at the end of the day, RIM pays NTP little if anything. RIM is NTP’s cash cow and there’s a game of “chicken” being played out. The last thing NTP would want is for RIM to be driven from RIM’s biggest market, namely the U.S. NTP isn’t a competitor to RIM, hoping to gain a foothold against them; they’re trying to get a piece of RIM’s pie, but without shrinking the pie.

  • Joe Stevenson

    I think NTP wins some sort of scaled back judgment, but at the end of the day, RIM pays NTP little if anything. RIM is NTP’s cash cow and there’s a game of “chicken” being played out. The last thing NTP would want is for RIM to be driven from RIM’s biggest market, namely the U.S. NTP isn’t a competitor to RIM, hoping to gain a foothold against them; they’re trying to get a piece of RIM’s pie, but without shrinking the pie.

  • Melissa Ox

    I think RIM will win. However I know nothing about patents, law, or the case, so take my opinion for what it is worth.. just about nothing… although it seems like I agree with the others so far.

  • Melissa Ox

    I think RIM will win. However I know nothing about patents, law, or the case, so take my opinion for what it is worth.. just about nothing… although it seems like I agree with the others so far.

  • John C.

    Since I didn’t know the answer myself, I consulted the penultimate source of knowledge in the universe: my Magic 8-Ball.

    My question: Will RIM win their lawsuit?

    Answer: Reply is hazy, try again.

    Question repeated.

    Answer #2: Concentrate and ask again.

    Now I was getting concerned. I concentrated really, really hard. I shook it several times and asked the question again.

    Answer #3: Outlook good.

    Sweet! Now that RIM will win, I can now go on with life.

    Thankfully though, my Magic 8-Ball will be by my side.

  • John C.

    Since I didn’t know the answer myself, I consulted the penultimate source of knowledge in the universe: my Magic 8-Ball.

    My question: Will RIM win their lawsuit?

    Answer: Reply is hazy, try again.

    Question repeated.

    Answer #2: Concentrate and ask again.

    Now I was getting concerned. I concentrated really, really hard. I shook it several times and asked the question again.

    Answer #3: Outlook good.

    Sweet! Now that RIM will win, I can now go on with life.

    Thankfully though, my Magic 8-Ball will be by my side.

  • http://www.ntm.org/ On the RIM … at the edge of

    Yep. That’s where I think RIM is right now — on the edge of a cliff. And while the vision from the RIM might be very good, the fall over the edge could be nasty. But I’m thinkin’ that RIM has plenty of anchors installed. So my prediction is that they’ll hang in there if they can leverage the view properly.

  • http://www.ntm.org On the RIM … at the edge of a cliff!

    Yep. That’s where I think RIM is right now — on the edge of a cliff. And while the vision from the RIM might be very good, the fall over the edge could be nasty. But I’m thinkin’ that RIM has plenty of anchors installed. So my prediction is that they’ll hang in there if they can leverage the view properly.

  • gocyclones

    I think that RIM should prevail, but what if they don’t. What if NTP does get the injunction to get them shut down in the US. Ouch!

    Matt

  • gocyclones

    I think that RIM should prevail, but what if they don’t. What if NTP does get the injunction to get them shut down in the US. Ouch!

    Matt

  • Mark HUtchison

    I wonder how many of the lawyers, judges … NTP representatives … involved in this case are using BlackBerrys right now?

  • Mark HUtchison

    I wonder how many of the lawyers, judges … NTP representatives … involved in this case are using BlackBerrys right now?

  • Mark HUtchison

    I wonder how many of the lawyers, judges … NTP representatives … involved in this case are using BlackBerrys right now?

  • Mark HUtchison

    I wonder how many of the lawyers, judges … NTP representatives … involved in this case are using BlackBerrys right now?

  • Judy Baker

    I would be concerned that if RIM goes to the Supreme Court, it will cost both RIM and NTP dearly in Legal fees.
    This fact alone should be enough to have NTP back off, as it means less for them to collect from their “cash cow”.

  • Judy Baker

    I would be concerned that if RIM goes to the Supreme Court, it will cost both RIM and NTP dearly in Legal fees.
    This fact alone should be enough to have NTP back off, as it means less for them to collect from their “cash cow”.

  • Alex D.

    I think RIM has too strong a hold on the market for them to fail now. For one thing, the government uses Blackberry devices extensively so I don’t think they would want to see RIM go away.

    Our company is testing out alternatives just in case though ;)

  • Alex D.

    I think RIM has too strong a hold on the market for them to fail now. For one thing, the government uses Blackberry devices extensively so I don’t think they would want to see RIM go away.

    Our company is testing out alternatives just in case though ;)

  • Rob s.

    The question should not be who wins or loses, in this game of big business it is who is going to have to dish over payments and how much. Rim will have to pay NTP no question in my mind but as far as Blackberry being shut down in the US there is probably nothing to worry about. So you can all keep your thumbs tapping happily Rim isn’t going away!

  • Rob s.

    The question should not be who wins or loses, in this game of big business it is who is going to have to dish over payments and how much. Rim will have to pay NTP no question in my mind but as far as Blackberry being shut down in the US there is probably nothing to worry about. So you can all keep your thumbs tapping happily Rim isn’t going away!

  • patent troll

    I hope the courts will finally slap an injunction on RIM activities in US.
    This will be a valuable lesson for all technology pirates to respect valid patents.

    Not a big price to pay for such a good lesson.

    I, for myself, will teach one day those “innovators” at Microshit how to respect my patents.

    Those corporate crooks just think they can
    infringe on any patent owned by a small guy
    with impunity.

    No more free lunches for RIM

    Bye Bye, RIM….

  • patent troll

    I hope the courts will finally slap an injunction on RIM activities in US.
    This will be a valuable lesson for all technology pirates to respect valid patents.

    Not a big price to pay for such a good lesson.

    I, for myself, will teach one day those “innovators” at Microshit how to respect my patents.

    Those corporate crooks just think they can
    infringe on any patent owned by a small guy
    with impunity.

    No more free lunches for RIM

    Bye Bye, RIM….

  • patent lawyer

    RIM’s lawyers have screwed up royally. They have missed the potentially winning argument on extraterritorial infringement. Just as the first firm failed to make invalidity arguments at trial, the second firm has miss-argued the infringement issue on appeal. RIM will ultimately prevail if it gets competent counsel.

  • patent lawyer

    RIM’s lawyers have screwed up royally. They have missed the potentially winning argument on extraterritorial infringement. Just as the first firm failed to make invalidity arguments at trial, the second firm has miss-argued the infringement issue on appeal. RIM will ultimately prevail if it gets competent counsel.

  • F Farias

    NPI, Inc is a shell company, which owns or holds nothing. Its “patents” regugitations of an imagined technology at the time they were written are generalizations which refer to nothing specific, no specific operating device and so are not and cannot be valid descriptions of a patented device. The patent system was created to protect the profits actual inventions
    generate for the inventors. NPI is a pirate company, searching for vulnerable companies that will give in, much as the original pirates looked to capture ships of the Spanish main, later attacked American trading ships as the Barbary pirates stopped by T.Jefferson. Its too bad judges aren’t seeing through the ruse.

  • F Farias

    NPI, Inc is a shell company, which owns or holds nothing. Its “patents” regugitations of an imagined technology at the time they were written are generalizations which refer to nothing specific, no specific operating device and so are not and cannot be valid descriptions of a patented device. The patent system was created to protect the profits actual inventions
    generate for the inventors. NPI is a pirate company, searching for vulnerable companies that will give in, much as the original pirates looked to capture ships of the Spanish main, later attacked American trading ships as the Barbary pirates stopped by T.Jefferson. Its too bad judges aren’t seeing through the ruse.

  • F Farias

    I mean the shell corp. NTP, Inc.

  • F Farias

    I mean the shell corp. NTP, Inc.

  • Stas Ukhanov

    I predict that Rim will not have to pay anything or maybe just a nominal fee because NTP is being very greedy which is only to their disadvantage. Also RIM is very confident in what it is doing and can afford the best lawyers and advisors. There is no way RIM will be shut down in the Unites States as so many gov’t and millitary agencies rely on them. Not to mention large corporations and celebrities… lol…

  • Stas Ukhanov

    I predict that Rim will not have to pay anything or maybe just a nominal fee because NTP is being very greedy which is only to their disadvantage. Also RIM is very confident in what it is doing and can afford the best lawyers and advisors. There is no way RIM will be shut down in the Unites States as so many gov’t and millitary agencies rely on them. Not to mention large corporations and celebrities… lol…