The difference being that Blackberry, unlike Nokia, has a ~cult~ following and is already very familiar to Administrators in the corporate world. Furthermore, for them to really start capturing market based on their other offerings integrating well with their new email/office offerings might mean deap-discounting and requiring early upgrades of other infrastructure (on the provider’s part of the deal). Provider’s, at least in the U.S., haven’t been in a big rush to throw out recent investments. So it might take three to five years before Nokia has enough critical mass to provide for enough Fortune 500 companies to really make a serious dent in Blackberry.

Another thing working against Nokia is that the Blackberry security model is already mature and with S/MIME and upcoming PGP support is getting even more secure. Government and sensitive private industry use don’t lightly change devices and software once they’ve certified and integrated with one platform. That factor alone could keep revenue from old product coming into Blackberry for years to come. All the while reinvesting into new product.

Unlike some other respondants I think Nokia’s best early chances (years one through three) will be with smaller business and home gadgeteers. Not corporations. Again, moving to Nokia wouldn’t be trivial given recent investments across the Blackberry spectrum (most places just upgraded to BES 4.x, newer devices, etc.).

But when the time comes Nokia can come to providers and companies with the complete spectrum of product from your hand to the tower and datacenter. That’s something Blackberry can’t do and won’t be able to compete with.

Blackberry better make some serious friends in Intel’s communications groups soon. Perhaps Qualcomm and others too.

No imminent danger but in three to five years I could see red marks on Blackberry’s finance sheets due to Nokia. -Ali

The difference being that Blackberry, unlike Nokia, has a ~cult~ following and is already very familiar to Administrators in the corporate world. Furthermore, for them to really start capturing market based on their other offerings integrating well with their new email/office offerings might mean deap-discounting and requiring early upgrades of other infrastructure (on the provider’s part of the deal). Provider’s, at least in the U.S., haven’t been in a big rush to throw out recent investments. So it might take three to five years before Nokia has enough critical mass to provide for enough Fortune 500 companies to really make a serious dent in Blackberry.

Another thing working against Nokia is that the Blackberry security model is already mature and with S/MIME and upcoming PGP support is getting even more secure. Government and sensitive private industry use don’t lightly change devices and software once they’ve certified and integrated with one platform. That factor alone could keep revenue from old product coming into Blackberry for years to come. All the while reinvesting into new product.

Unlike some other respondants I think Nokia’s best early chances (years one through three) will be with smaller business and home gadgeteers. Not corporations. Again, moving to Nokia wouldn’t be trivial given recent investments across the Blackberry spectrum (most places just upgraded to BES 4.x, newer devices, etc.).

But when the time comes Nokia can come to providers and companies with the complete spectrum of product from your hand to the tower and datacenter. That’s something Blackberry can’t do and won’t be able to compete with.

Blackberry better make some serious friends in Intel’s communications groups soon. Perhaps Qualcomm and others too.

No imminent danger but in three to five years I could see red marks on Blackberry’s finance sheets due to Nokia. -Ali

As far as the Intellisync acquisition goes, it sounds as if they are buying that up to provide their own desktop synchronization. On top of their sales, RIM will likely continue licensing Intellisync. So that means that Nokia will be providing the desktop synchronization for BlackBerry devices as well.

I think Nokia is really positioning themselves to make inroads into the enterprise market.

As far as the Intellisync acquisition goes, it sounds as if they are buying that up to provide their own desktop synchronization. On top of their sales, RIM will likely continue licensing Intellisync. So that means that Nokia will be providing the desktop synchronization for BlackBerry devices as well.

I think Nokia is really positioning themselves to make inroads into the enterprise market.

Nokia has some enterprise offerings but i believe they are missing a killer or distinct device that has been proven to be productive in the mobile workplace.

example… treo600/650, Blackberries, HTC pocket pc’s.

I cannot fathom a way for nokia to take any marketshare from either microsoft/palm/good/or rim.

Nokia has some enterprise offerings but i believe they are missing a killer or distinct device that has been proven to be productive in the mobile workplace.

example… treo600/650, Blackberries, HTC pocket pc’s.

I cannot fathom a way for nokia to take any marketshare from either microsoft/palm/good/or rim.

I have used intellisync software for many years all the way back to my palm handhelds.

I don’t know what enterprise offerings they are providing, but they will very soon be out of the loop when it comes to real deployments of exchange 2003 sp2 and windows mobile 5 cell phone devices. There will be no need to sync or use any third party software, promised by microsoft.

1. Take Windows Smartphones/ PPC out of their market now.

Blackberry-

How hard would it be for blackberry to make their own front end client to serve the same functions as intellsync? They have the money.

Where does this leave intellisync?

Nokia! Nokia does not have a real footing in the wireless enterprise arena, i know they offer enterprise proxy products to dilute office documents to internet onto their wap phones, but to appeal to more people, intellsync is a good move for them.

I don’t see nokia being a huge player in such a saturated field of office wireless data content.

This really isn’t a roadblock for rim. If microsoft bought intellisync then there would be a slight problem.

Like i said, this is my opnion, don’t flame me if anything i said above is not true.

I have used intellisync software for many years all the way back to my palm handhelds.

I don’t know what enterprise offerings they are providing, but they will very soon be out of the loop when it comes to real deployments of exchange 2003 sp2 and windows mobile 5 cell phone devices. There will be no need to sync or use any third party software, promised by microsoft.

1. Take Windows Smartphones/ PPC out of their market now.

Blackberry-

How hard would it be for blackberry to make their own front end client to serve the same functions as intellsync? They have the money.

Where does this leave intellisync?

Nokia! Nokia does not have a real footing in the wireless enterprise arena, i know they offer enterprise proxy products to dilute office documents to internet onto their wap phones, but to appeal to more people, intellsync is a good move for them.

I don’t see nokia being a huge player in such a saturated field of office wireless data content.

This really isn’t a roadblock for rim. If microsoft bought intellisync then there would be a slight problem.

Like i said, this is my opnion, don’t flame me if anything i said above is not true.