Comments on: Is RIM making a big mistake with the Stealth? http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/is-rim-making-a-big-mistake-with-the-stealth/ The voice of the BlackBerry community. Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Kyle McInnes http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/is-rim-making-a-big-mistake-with-the-stealth/comment-page-1/#comment-523834 Kyle McInnes Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:01:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/001941/#comment-523834 It’s 2012 and I just read this comment. So much has changed.

]]> By: BlackBerry Cool » Jim Balsille Says: a new BlackBerry will have “image capture” http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/is-rim-making-a-big-mistake-with-the-stealth/comment-page-1/#comment-35566 BlackBerry Cool » Jim Balsille Says: a new BlackBerry will have “image capture” Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:10:58 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/001941/#comment-35566 [...] This isn’t that big of a deal, seeing as we already knew that RIM was already working on BlackBerrys with MP3 playback, video, memory expansion and image capture, but in light of a recent BlackBerry Cool editorial, it does make us feel good. eWeek.com is reporting that RIM CEO Jim Balsillie, speaking at the C3 expo yesterday, told the crowd that future BlackBerrys would feature “image capture” — i.e. a camera. Balsillie also said that RIM would be introducing new features to BlackBerry devices, including MP3 players, video, memory expansion and image capture, very soon. In addition, he said that GPS would be included in virtually all BlackBerry devices, except for some that would work with a Bluetooth GPS receiver. [...]

]]> By: kozen http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/is-rim-making-a-big-mistake-with-the-stealth/comment-page-1/#comment-35545 kozen Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:52:18 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/001941/#comment-35545 The current GPS BlackBerry 7520 and 7100i are quite successful but theis are iden phones. So I really would like to see some more GPS BlackBerrys in the market, especially for GSM and/or UMTS networks.

]]> By: kozen http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/is-rim-making-a-big-mistake-with-the-stealth/comment-page-1/#comment-483071 kozen Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:52:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/001941/#comment-483071 The current GPS BlackBerry 7520 and 7100i are quite successful but theis are iden phones. So I really would like to see some more GPS BlackBerrys in the market, especially for GSM and/or UMTS networks.

]]> By: Andy Cohen http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/is-rim-making-a-big-mistake-with-the-stealth/comment-page-1/#comment-35527 Andy Cohen Thu, 29 Jun 2006 04:11:21 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/001941/#comment-35527 Blackberry is the best device and does everything it does better than any other device. Much better than Treo, and much better than Q Phone. But in order for Blackberry to retain its dominent position as the premier multi function device maker, they need to add different models that do different things. Keep on the same track they are on for corporate customers, but making a device that also has a camera, mp3 player, TV and video capabilites, much faster internet access,and amfm radio will only make Blackberry more successful and apt to retain its number one position. Also these new devices need to look more fashionable with nicer metal finishes and other colors. The best needs to keep getting better!

]]> By: Andy Cohen http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/is-rim-making-a-big-mistake-with-the-stealth/comment-page-1/#comment-483070 Andy Cohen Thu, 29 Jun 2006 04:11:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/001941/#comment-483070 Blackberry is the best device and does everything it does better than any other device. Much better than Treo, and much better than Q Phone. But in order for Blackberry to retain its dominent position as the premier multi function device maker, they need to add different models that do different things. Keep on the same track they are on for corporate customers, but making a device that also has a camera, mp3 player, TV and video capabilites, much faster internet access,and amfm radio will only make Blackberry more successful and apt to retain its number one position. Also these new devices need to look more fashionable with nicer metal finishes and other colors. The best needs to keep getting better!

]]> By: Shawn http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/is-rim-making-a-big-mistake-with-the-stealth/comment-page-1/#comment-35491 Shawn Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:27:18 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/001941/#comment-35491 And what does a 16-20 year old need with a Blackberry? Somehow I don’t think full push email is something at person at that age needs. RIM has done very well doing what they do best. I’d hate to see them try to expand their market and lose sight of what actually made them what they are today.

Other idea is to make 2 versions. One with a camera and one without. I know that Palm and Windows devices do this. I don’t see why it would be any different for RIM to do the same.

]]> By: Shawn http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/is-rim-making-a-big-mistake-with-the-stealth/comment-page-1/#comment-483069 Shawn Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:27:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/001941/#comment-483069 And what does a 16-20 year old need with a Blackberry? Somehow I don’t think full push email is something at person at that age needs. RIM has done very well doing what they do best. I’d hate to see them try to expand their market and lose sight of what actually made them what they are today.

Other idea is to make 2 versions. One with a camera and one without. I know that Palm and Windows devices do this. I don’t see why it would be any different for RIM to do the same.

]]> By: Jamison Banks http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/is-rim-making-a-big-mistake-with-the-stealth/comment-page-1/#comment-35483 Jamison Banks Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:48:26 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/001941/#comment-35483 “As part of the professional services group of a software company, there are plenty of clients that forbid camera phones on premises and some places it’s just illegal.”

And that’s the rub. Professional services, heck try the US Military/Government which bans anything with a digital camera. Rumor has it they have a deal with RIM that they buy blackberries as long as there’s no cameras on them. Government sales make up a full 10%+ of RIM’s sales.

Obviously, RIM would NEED to make a specific difference in the lifestyle devices . . . but that nagging contractual agreement may be what’s biting them in the butt.

I’d hate to think the reason is lack of technical expertise. C’mon RIM, get a move on.

]]> By: Jamison Banks http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/is-rim-making-a-big-mistake-with-the-stealth/comment-page-1/#comment-483068 Jamison Banks Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:48:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/001941/#comment-483068 “As part of the professional services group of a software company, there are plenty of clients that forbid camera phones on premises and some places it’s just illegal.”

And that’s the rub. Professional services, heck try the US Military/Government which bans anything with a digital camera. Rumor has it they have a deal with RIM that they buy blackberries as long as there’s no cameras on them. Government sales make up a full 10%+ of RIM’s sales.

Obviously, RIM would NEED to make a specific difference in the lifestyle devices . . . but that nagging contractual agreement may be what’s biting them in the butt.

I’d hate to think the reason is lack of technical expertise. C’mon RIM, get a move on.

]]> By: admin http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/is-rim-making-a-big-mistake-with-the-stealth/comment-page-1/#comment-35482 admin Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:42:35 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/001941/#comment-35482 “As part of the professional services group of a software company…”

But that’s just the point, Shawn. This is a great device for you, but not 16-20 yr old kids who love taking pictures of their friends on their cell phone. That’s the market that RIM needs to hit if they want a “consumer” or “lifestyle” BlackBerry to work.

]]> By: admin http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/is-rim-making-a-big-mistake-with-the-stealth/comment-page-1/#comment-483067 admin Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:42:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/001941/#comment-483067 “As part of the professional services group of a software company…”

But that’s just the point, Shawn. This is a great device for you, but not 16-20 yr old kids who love taking pictures of their friends on their cell phone. That’s the market that RIM needs to hit if they want a “consumer” or “lifestyle” BlackBerry to work.

]]> By: Shawn http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/is-rim-making-a-big-mistake-with-the-stealth/comment-page-1/#comment-35481 Shawn Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:30:25 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/001941/#comment-35481 I really don’t think that lack of camera should be looked down upon. As part of the professional services group of a software company, there are plenty of clients that forbid camera phones on premises and some places it’s just illegal. Quite honestly, I have a Moto V635 before and I rarely used the camera but it’s hard to find good high end phones with Bluetooth and EDGE that don’t have cameras. So I found myself in plenty of cases having to leave the phone at the reception desk or in the car. I think the music player and removable media would be a great addition but I see more uses for the removable media. It’s hard being on site and having to upload a file to our corporate servers when I can’t get to email via a VPN or the web. Having the ability to pull it off the removable media and sending it via EDGE would be a very great benefit.

]]> By: Shawn http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/is-rim-making-a-big-mistake-with-the-stealth/comment-page-1/#comment-483065 Shawn Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:30:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/001941/#comment-483065 I really don’t think that lack of camera should be looked down upon. As part of the professional services group of a software company, there are plenty of clients that forbid camera phones on premises and some places it’s just illegal. Quite honestly, I have a Moto V635 before and I rarely used the camera but it’s hard to find good high end phones with Bluetooth and EDGE that don’t have cameras. So I found myself in plenty of cases having to leave the phone at the reception desk or in the car. I think the music player and removable media would be a great addition but I see more uses for the removable media. It’s hard being on site and having to upload a file to our corporate servers when I can’t get to email via a VPN or the web. Having the ability to pull it off the removable media and sending it via EDGE would be a very great benefit.

]]> By: Shawn http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/is-rim-making-a-big-mistake-with-the-stealth/comment-page-1/#comment-483066 Shawn Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:30:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/001941/#comment-483066 I really don’t think that lack of camera should be looked down upon. As part of the professional services group of a software company, there are plenty of clients that forbid camera phones on premises and some places it’s just illegal. Quite honestly, I have a Moto V635 before and I rarely used the camera but it’s hard to find good high end phones with Bluetooth and EDGE that don’t have cameras. So I found myself in plenty of cases having to leave the phone at the reception desk or in the car. I think the music player and removable media would be a great addition but I see more uses for the removable media. It’s hard being on site and having to upload a file to our corporate servers when I can’t get to email via a VPN or the web. Having the ability to pull it off the removable media and sending it via EDGE would be a very great benefit.

]]> By: Spanky McTony http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/is-rim-making-a-big-mistake-with-the-stealth/comment-page-1/#comment-35476 Spanky McTony Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:55:57 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/001941/#comment-35476 I don’t think it’s safe to assume that the “stealth” will look like it does in the photocopy, even if it was done that way for the 8700 when it was leaked.

Also its called “stealth”, I think if there could ever be an apple connection ever, they would hide the real device shots until launch. This whole removable media thing makes me think that if the only difference is a media player and they want it to make a big splash, it’s hopefully iTunes-related. Maybe they’re leaving the camera out this round so they can trumpet the importance of that potential collaboration. Maybe that’s why they’re keeping a tight lip on the software implementation of these new media features too.

]]> By: Spanky McTony http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/is-rim-making-a-big-mistake-with-the-stealth/comment-page-1/#comment-483064 Spanky McTony Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:55:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/06/28/001941/#comment-483064 I don’t think it’s safe to assume that the “stealth” will look like it does in the photocopy, even if it was done that way for the 8700 when it was leaked.

Also its called “stealth”, I think if there could ever be an apple connection ever, they would hide the real device shots until launch. This whole removable media thing makes me think that if the only difference is a media player and they want it to make a big splash, it’s hopefully iTunes-related. Maybe they’re leaving the camera out this round so they can trumpet the importance of that potential collaboration. Maybe that’s why they’re keeping a tight lip on the software implementation of these new media features too.

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