I’d like to see RIM focus on enhancing the email functionality by adding the ability to properly read HTML-formatted email. How about the rendering of PDF attachments without third party apps? When do we get to do something more than view DOC and XLS attachments?

There are enough missing pieces to completing the business-related functionality that spending resources on cameras and mp3 players is, IMHO, a shot in entirely the wrong direction.

-S

I’d like to see RIM focus on enhancing the email functionality by adding the ability to properly read HTML-formatted email. How about the rendering of PDF attachments without third party apps? When do we get to do something more than view DOC and XLS attachments?

There are enough missing pieces to completing the business-related functionality that spending resources on cameras and mp3 players is, IMHO, a shot in entirely the wrong direction.

-S

For me there are 2 huge advantages to having a camera built into your cell phone, even though these cameras are of a far lower quality than a separate digital camera:
1) portability and convenience: the whole point of a digicam integrated into a cell phone is that you don’t always have your stand alone camera with you. Hence, in situations where you might not have your camera with you, you can still take out your cell phone and snap a photo. On this point, this new design from RIM fails.
2) connectivity: the other huge advantage of a camera in a cell phone is the simple fact that, being connected to a wireless network, one can easily send these images to other cell phones and computers. That adds a whole new dimension to the experience of taking pictures. Indeed, we’re already seeing some digicam manufacturers put into their devices some limited connectivity to WiFi networks, simply because this is a great feature. On this point, the RIM patent appears to offer a solution, although perhaps not the most elegant one.
Additionally, if the digicam has any amount of decent resolution, then that BB had better be connected to a 3G or WiFi connection, in order to email or IM the images to another device. You don’t want to be sending a 3 megapixel image, for instance, over an EDGE network.

In sum, I just can’t see how this idea will fly with consumers. It seems to be contrary to the very reason why cameras are put into cell phones these days…because most people don’t carry their cameras with them all the time, but many people do have their cell phones with them on a continuous basis.

Plus, the whole idea of transmitting the camera images into the phone adds a layer of complication beyond what an integrated camera/cell phone offers.

Finally, there is the issue of which digicam would communicate with this BB device. If RIM is smart, they’ve made deals with leading camera manufacturers to either build this functionality into their products, or offer some sort of add-on. How likely this would be, I don’t know, but it seems like that would be a hard sell to the camera manufactures.
If this idea did stand a chance, it seems it would only catch on if this BB could interact with a variety of cameras that consumers would own.

The lesser solution would be if RIM attempts to release its own digicam along with this device. That would add to the price, and then there is the question of whether RIM can release a decent digicam. There’s the fact that so many people already own digicams, and wouldn’t want to ditch their nice Sony or Canon for a RIM model.

It seems almost as if RIM wants to have it both ways: not building a camera into their device, to satisfy corporate/govt security concerns, and yet offer consumers some sort of camera with cell phone solution. But in doing so they seem to have satisfied neither market.

Of course, it’s easy to criticize an idea on paper; only if and when this device comes into existence will we be able to judge this concept. And as others have noted, RIM has a pretty good track record of execution.

For me there are 2 huge advantages to having a camera built into your cell phone, even though these cameras are of a far lower quality than a separate digital camera:
1) portability and convenience: the whole point of a digicam integrated into a cell phone is that you don’t always have your stand alone camera with you. Hence, in situations where you might not have your camera with you, you can still take out your cell phone and snap a photo. On this point, this new design from RIM fails.
2) connectivity: the other huge advantage of a camera in a cell phone is the simple fact that, being connected to a wireless network, one can easily send these images to other cell phones and computers. That adds a whole new dimension to the experience of taking pictures. Indeed, we’re already seeing some digicam manufacturers put into their devices some limited connectivity to WiFi networks, simply because this is a great feature. On this point, the RIM patent appears to offer a solution, although perhaps not the most elegant one.
Additionally, if the digicam has any amount of decent resolution, then that BB had better be connected to a 3G or WiFi connection, in order to email or IM the images to another device. You don’t want to be sending a 3 megapixel image, for instance, over an EDGE network.

In sum, I just can’t see how this idea will fly with consumers. It seems to be contrary to the very reason why cameras are put into cell phones these days…because most people don’t carry their cameras with them all the time, but many people do have their cell phones with them on a continuous basis.

Plus, the whole idea of transmitting the camera images into the phone adds a layer of complication beyond what an integrated camera/cell phone offers.

Finally, there is the issue of which digicam would communicate with this BB device. If RIM is smart, they’ve made deals with leading camera manufacturers to either build this functionality into their products, or offer some sort of add-on. How likely this would be, I don’t know, but it seems like that would be a hard sell to the camera manufactures.
If this idea did stand a chance, it seems it would only catch on if this BB could interact with a variety of cameras that consumers would own.

The lesser solution would be if RIM attempts to release its own digicam along with this device. That would add to the price, and then there is the question of whether RIM can release a decent digicam. There’s the fact that so many people already own digicams, and wouldn’t want to ditch their nice Sony or Canon for a RIM model.

It seems almost as if RIM wants to have it both ways: not building a camera into their device, to satisfy corporate/govt security concerns, and yet offer consumers some sort of camera with cell phone solution. But in doing so they seem to have satisfied neither market.

Of course, it’s easy to criticize an idea on paper; only if and when this device comes into existence will we be able to judge this concept. And as others have noted, RIM has a pretty good track record of execution.

For me there are 2 huge advantages to having a camera built into your cell phone, even though these cameras are of a far lower quality than a separate digital camera:
1) portability and convenience: the whole point of a digicam integrated into a cell phone is that you don’t always have your stand alone camera with you. Hence, in situations where you might not have your camera with you, you can still take out your cell phone and snap a photo. On this point, this new design from RIM fails.
2) connectivity: the other huge advantage of a camera in a cell phone is the simple fact that, being connected to a wireless network, one can easily send these images to other cell phones and computers. That adds a whole new dimension to the experience of taking pictures. Indeed, we’re already seeing some digicam manufacturers put into their devices some limited connectivity to WiFi networks, simply because this is a great feature. On this point, the RIM patent appears to offer a solution, although perhaps not the most elegant one.
Additionally, if the digicam has any amount of decent resolution, then that BB had better be connected to a 3G or WiFi connection, in order to email or IM the images to another device. You don’t want to be sending a 3 megapixel image, for instance, over an EDGE network.

In sum, I just can’t see how this idea will fly with consumers. It seems to be contrary to the very reason why cameras are put into cell phones these days…because most people don’t carry their cameras with them all the time, but many people do have their cell phones with them on a continuous basis.

Plus, the whole idea of transmitting the camera images into the phone adds a layer of complication beyond what an integrated camera/cell phone offers.

Finally, there is the issue of which digicam would communicate with this BB device. If RIM is smart, they’ve made deals with leading camera manufacturers to either build this functionality into their products, or offer some sort of add-on. How likely this would be, I don’t know, but it seems like that would be a hard sell to the camera manufactures.
If this idea did stand a chance, it seems it would only catch on if this BB could interact with a variety of cameras that consumers would own.

The lesser solution would be if RIM attempts to release its own digicam along with this device. That would add to the price, and then there is the question of whether RIM can release a decent digicam. There’s the fact that so many people already own digicams, and wouldn’t want to ditch their nice Sony or Canon for a RIM model.

It seems almost as if RIM wants to have it both ways: not building a camera into their device, to satisfy corporate/govt security concerns, and yet offer consumers some sort of camera with cell phone solution. But in doing so they seem to have satisfied neither market.

Of course, it’s easy to criticize an idea on paper; only if and when this device comes into existence will we be able to judge this concept. And as others have noted, RIM has a pretty good track record of execution.

I think if they make a consumer/enterprise split that it could jeopardize this balance. They are better off to just do the tight rope between the suits, tech freaks, and wannabe celebs.

I think if they make a consumer/enterprise split that it could jeopardize this balance. They are better off to just do the tight rope between the suits, tech freaks, and wannabe celebs.

Honestly, I’m not sure why RIM doesn’t create a fully seperate division or company to cater to the consumer market if they’re THAT locked into government contracts. They risk being locked into the government/corporate/enterprise market by doing the camera dance. Although external camera support might work for the NSA, it doesn’t get the job done for Paris Hilton wanna-be’s.

There are far more celeb wanna-be’s than NSA types willing to plunk down the cash. Listen to the bling, RIM.

Honestly, I’m not sure why RIM doesn’t create a fully seperate division or company to cater to the consumer market if they’re THAT locked into government contracts. They risk being locked into the government/corporate/enterprise market by doing the camera dance. Although external camera support might work for the NSA, it doesn’t get the job done for Paris Hilton wanna-be’s.

There are far more celeb wanna-be’s than NSA types willing to plunk down the cash. Listen to the bling, RIM.

I want devices that work together like lego to build more powerful devices. Using the Blackberry as the “communication” brick, with a seperate “camera” brick makes a lot of sense.

BlueTooth promised this level of funcitonality. I really hope that this patent is a sign that we will soon have a number of accessories that work together to form a “franken-phone” that has the capabilities that a user needs or wants without sacrificing quality.

After all – do we really need another cameracellmp3jackofalltradesmasterofnone device? Lets use the devices that make sense.

I want devices that work together like lego to build more powerful devices. Using the Blackberry as the “communication” brick, with a seperate “camera” brick makes a lot of sense.

BlueTooth promised this level of funcitonality. I really hope that this patent is a sign that we will soon have a number of accessories that work together to form a “franken-phone” that has the capabilities that a user needs or wants without sacrificing quality.

After all – do we really need another cameracellmp3jackofalltradesmasterofnone device? Lets use the devices that make sense.