Comments on: RIMarkable Read: Why Wireless Carriers Hate Wi-Fi http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/ The voice of the BlackBerry community. Sat, 18 May 2013 20:02:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: john http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-201420 john Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:41:23 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-201420 I think wifi is good for cellular customers. Even though they might have to strip some features. Being able to go onlline on your phone is a big must in this day of age. http://showmethebroadband.com

]]> By: john http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-485184 john Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:41:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-485184 I think wifi is good for cellular customers. Even though they might have to strip some features. Being able to go onlline on your phone is a big must in this day of age. http://showmethebroadband.com

]]> By: Mark Tomin http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-93812 Mark Tomin Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:08:23 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-93812 Another parallel could be drawn with Nokia E61. In order to make appearance in the U.S. with Cingular, Nokia had to strip it of Wi-Fi and some other features, making it Nokia E62. You cannot buy any non-grey market E series Nokia (or any Nokia phone with Wi-Fi for that matter) in USA.

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]]> By: Mark Tomin http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-485183 Mark Tomin Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:08:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-485183 Another parallel could be drawn with Nokia E61. In order to make appearance in the U.S. with Cingular, Nokia had to strip it of Wi-Fi and some other features, making it Nokia E62. You cannot buy any non-grey market E series Nokia (or any Nokia phone with Wi-Fi for that matter) in USA.

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]]> By: tev http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-92878 tev Wed, 21 Feb 2007 05:50:14 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-92878 Questions! Why American consumers put up with such unfair charges from the carriers??? Are they so blind to easily give their hard earn money to make the carriers even powerful?

]]> By: tev http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-485182 tev Wed, 21 Feb 2007 05:50:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-485182 Questions! Why American consumers put up with such unfair charges from the carriers??? Are they so blind to easily give their hard earn money to make the carriers even powerful?

]]> By: Seopad http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-92865 Seopad Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:44:29 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-92865 The US carriers are such crap. They nickel and dime you every chance they get. In euro countries you dont get that BS.

]]> By: Seopad http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-485179 Seopad Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:44:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-485179 The US carriers are such crap. They nickel and dime you every chance they get. In euro countries you dont get that BS.

]]> By: Seopad http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-485180 Seopad Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:44:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-485180 The US carriers are such crap. They nickel and dime you every chance they get. In euro countries you dont get that BS.

]]> By: Seopad http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-485181 Seopad Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:44:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-485181 The US carriers are such crap. They nickel and dime you every chance they get. In euro countries you dont get that BS.

]]> By: Thought http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-92710 Thought Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:33:20 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-92710 Totally agree on why the carriers are reluctant to embrace WiFi.

However, it would be interesting to know the dynamics of exactly why and how so many Windows Mobile devices have WiFi. I’m not so sure it’s because previous WM pda’s had that feature and carriers felt compelled to allow that as some sort of legacy inclusion. With Palm, their Treos don’t have WiFi.

My guess is that it may just be plain old pressure from Microsoft, just like it was most likely pressure from Apple that allowed the iPhone to have WiFi. I have to agree with Stacy, that it seems the manufacturer has to push back in order to get this feature in. Of course, Microsoft and Apple do have clout that most other vendors do not or at least don’t think they do.

]]> By: Thought http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-485178 Thought Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:33:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-485178 Totally agree on why the carriers are reluctant to embrace WiFi.

However, it would be interesting to know the dynamics of exactly why and how so many Windows Mobile devices have WiFi. I’m not so sure it’s because previous WM pda’s had that feature and carriers felt compelled to allow that as some sort of legacy inclusion. With Palm, their Treos don’t have WiFi.

My guess is that it may just be plain old pressure from Microsoft, just like it was most likely pressure from Apple that allowed the iPhone to have WiFi. I have to agree with Stacy, that it seems the manufacturer has to push back in order to get this feature in. Of course, Microsoft and Apple do have clout that most other vendors do not or at least don’t think they do.

]]> By: justelise http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-92701 justelise Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:00:02 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-92701 I don’t think this conversation should be limited to WiFi. What about GPS? Didn’t verizon cripple the GPS on their 8700 series Blackberry? What purpose did that serve? They couldn’t figure out how to overcharge their customers for using it, so they had the functionality crippled before they would sell the handset.

This whole debate shouldn’t be aimed at one carrier. They are all guilty of it and they’re all guilty of everything they can do to lock people in or find a way to charge them for using every feature their device has.

]]> By: justelise http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-485177 justelise Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:00:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-485177 I don’t think this conversation should be limited to WiFi. What about GPS? Didn’t verizon cripple the GPS on their 8700 series Blackberry? What purpose did that serve? They couldn’t figure out how to overcharge their customers for using it, so they had the functionality crippled before they would sell the handset.

This whole debate shouldn’t be aimed at one carrier. They are all guilty of it and they’re all guilty of everything they can do to lock people in or find a way to charge them for using every feature their device has.

]]> By: Stac http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-92698 Stac Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:14:58 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-92698 This is a fallacy, IMHO. It’s a matter of the manufacturers caving to the carriers… Something that I would have hoped would be long in the past given what a number Steve Jobs did on Cingular with the iPhone.

If RIM insisted on giving it’s customers WiFi, and wouldn’t take no for an answer from Cingular/at&t, then we’d have the WiFi we so desire.

Why do the 8125, 8525, and other Windows mobile phones have WiFi and the 8800 does not? It’s long overdue for RIM to give it’s customers what they want rather than giving Cingular what it wants.

-S

]]> By: Stac http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-485176 Stac Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:14:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-485176 This is a fallacy, IMHO. It’s a matter of the manufacturers caving to the carriers… Something that I would have hoped would be long in the past given what a number Steve Jobs did on Cingular with the iPhone.

If RIM insisted on giving it’s customers WiFi, and wouldn’t take no for an answer from Cingular/at&t, then we’d have the WiFi we so desire.

Why do the 8125, 8525, and other Windows mobile phones have WiFi and the 8800 does not? It’s long overdue for RIM to give it’s customers what they want rather than giving Cingular what it wants.

-S

]]> By: Paul http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-92681 Paul Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:33:28 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-92681 I can see the wireless carriers hating WiFi. Used to have a HP IPAQ and loved the wifi. Did not have push e-mail like my BB does, but all I needed was a wifi signal and I could tell it to retrieve e-mail, respond, send etc. While home I could let it connect to my wireless router and do the same. All with no fees to any carrier, unless you count the fee for my broadband at home.

]]> By: Paul http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-485175 Paul Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:33:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-485175 I can see the wireless carriers hating WiFi. Used to have a HP IPAQ and loved the wifi. Did not have push e-mail like my BB does, but all I needed was a wifi signal and I could tell it to retrieve e-mail, respond, send etc. While home I could let it connect to my wireless router and do the same. All with no fees to any carrier, unless you count the fee for my broadband at home.

]]> By: RIMarkable Read: Why Wireless Carriers Hate Wi-Fi | RIMarkable | The official, unofficial BlackBerry Weblog http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-92656 RIMarkable Read: Why Wireless Carriers Hate Wi-Fi | RIMarkable | The official, unofficial BlackBerry Weblog Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:29:23 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-92656 [...] Our second installment of RIMarkable Read has been posted over on BlackBerry Cool. This time we tell you why wireless carriers hate Wi-Fi. [...]

]]> By: happiicamper http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/rimarkable-read-why-wireless-carriers-hate-wi-fi/comment-page-1/#comment-92625 happiicamper Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:40:06 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/02/20/003650/#comment-92625 I totally agree!!!

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