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		<title>By: BlackBerry 8310 comes to Portugal &#124; blackberry phone reviews</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/03/weekly-contest-why-europe-first/comment-page-1/#comment-523341</link>
		<dc:creator>BlackBerry 8310 comes to Portugal &#124; blackberry phone reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 06:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] UK release, and the initial German announcement. Of course, it&#8217;s pretty much standard that Europe gets all the shiny toys before us across the pond, just like it&#8217;s inevitable that the Orient will be doing crazier [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] UK release, and the initial German announcement. Of course, it&#8217;s pretty much standard that Europe gets all the shiny toys before us across the pond, just like it&#8217;s inevitable that the Orient will be doing crazier [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KW Variant 3</title>
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		<dc:creator>KW Variant 3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 01:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Among the current hot-hatch line-up (think R26, OPC, and ST) the new GTI is still the least powerful and the figures don&#039;t stir up excitement. Power continues to come from VW&#039;s 2,0-litre 16-valve turbocharged &#039;EA-888? motor. Now in it&#039;s second stage of development, VW engineers have not simply added new or upgraded ECU software. The engine has received new components such as modified pistons and piston rings, a regulated oil pump, a new vacuum pump, a new high-pressure fuel pump and a new mass airflow sensor. The result is 155 kW at 5 300 rpm and 280 N.m of torque from 1 700 rpm to 5 200 rpm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Among the current hot-hatch line-up (think R26, OPC, and ST) the new GTI is still the least powerful and the figures don&#8217;t stir up excitement. Power continues to come from VW&#8217;s 2,0-litre 16-valve turbocharged &#8216;EA-888? motor. Now in it&#8217;s second stage of development, VW engineers have not simply added new or upgraded ECU software. The engine has received new components such as modified pistons and piston rings, a regulated oil pump, a new vacuum pump, a new high-pressure fuel pump and a new mass airflow sensor. The result is 155 kW at 5 300 rpm and 280 N.m of torque from 1 700 rpm to 5 200 rpm</p>
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		<title>By: Research in Motion</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/03/weekly-contest-why-europe-first/comment-page-1/#comment-183788</link>
		<dc:creator>Research in Motion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] UK release, and the initial German announcement. Of course, it&#8217;s pretty much standard that Europe gets all the shiny toys before us across the pond, just like it&#8217;s inevitable that the Orient will be doing crazier [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] UK release, and the initial German announcement. Of course, it&rsquo;s pretty much standard that Europe gets all the shiny toys before us across the pond, just like it&rsquo;s inevitable that the Orient will be doing crazier [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BlackBerry 8310 comes to Portugal &#124; BlackBerry Cool</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/03/weekly-contest-why-europe-first/comment-page-1/#comment-182508</link>
		<dc:creator>BlackBerry 8310 comes to Portugal &#124; BlackBerry Cool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] UK release, and the initial German announcement. Of course, it&#8217;s pretty much standard that Europe gets all the shiny toys before us across the pond, just like it&#8217;s inevitable that the Orient will be doing crazier [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] UK release, and the initial German announcement. Of course, it&#8217;s pretty much standard that Europe gets all the shiny toys before us across the pond, just like it&#8217;s inevitable that the Orient will be doing crazier [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LexLuther</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/03/weekly-contest-why-europe-first/comment-page-1/#comment-181724</link>
		<dc:creator>LexLuther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Simple.  Europeans like pretty things and North Americans value utilitarian devices.  Go pretty in Europe,then hit the consumers in North AMerica with what works.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple.  Europeans like pretty things and North Americans value utilitarian devices.  Go pretty in Europe,then hit the consumers in North AMerica with what works.</p>
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		<title>By: Mazen</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/03/weekly-contest-why-europe-first/comment-page-1/#comment-180094</link>
		<dc:creator>Mazen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regardless of the win, I do want to post my 2 cents worth here because this is a question asked time and time again and NOT just for the blackberry or other tech devices but many different products.

There may be several reasons complex in their understanding but a basic idea to wrap your brain around is the fact that America is a country that is based on trade before anything else. Adding to that, having lived in  multiple places around the world, I find that the people in America for some reason or the other are far far far more compliant about the treatment and products they receive and when.

There can be many reasons to the above, education, individual lifestyles, public information but I will personally say the safest bet is to blame the media since it has the biggest effect on how Americans think and even learn  of new information.

Again..american media being fueled by advertisers who are in turn fueled by corporations see it in their best interest to limit services for a reason so they can earn costly premiums which unfortunately many Americans (did i mention very trendy ppl too) will gladly pay for and not question.

That trend thing too..this is one of the reasons as well..maybe if Americans weren&#039;t as willing to pay for the premium services the actual companies would work harder to &#039;bring it&#039; for them.

Just think..for a nation that refuses to mostly acknowledge an outside and co-operative tie with the rest of the world 
ie. alienates itself from many world-wide customs/standards (metric..need i say more..systems based on 10 are far easier to use!)
this is a selling point for a business in itself.

To give a very small example, having lived in Pakistan and working with products that had multivoltage but european plugs..all the extension cords I bought there were multi sockets and would accept both american &amp; european plugs.

Yet here in the US, its sad that even the most expensive extension cord wouldnt have an option for a european plug..which is where your overpriced $10 conversion plug from radioshack comes in.

Regardless...my apologies on the rant but I&#039;ve felt this like forever and in closing i feel that as an individual or as a nation, when you close yourself off from the world, in your belief that you are somehow self-sufficient or perhaps superior you stop learning and start dying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of the win, I do want to post my 2 cents worth here because this is a question asked time and time again and NOT just for the blackberry or other tech devices but many different products.</p>
<p>There may be several reasons complex in their understanding but a basic idea to wrap your brain around is the fact that America is a country that is based on trade before anything else. Adding to that, having lived in  multiple places around the world, I find that the people in America for some reason or the other are far far far more compliant about the treatment and products they receive and when.</p>
<p>There can be many reasons to the above, education, individual lifestyles, public information but I will personally say the safest bet is to blame the media since it has the biggest effect on how Americans think and even learn  of new information.</p>
<p>Again..american media being fueled by advertisers who are in turn fueled by corporations see it in their best interest to limit services for a reason so they can earn costly premiums which unfortunately many Americans (did i mention very trendy ppl too) will gladly pay for and not question.</p>
<p>That trend thing too..this is one of the reasons as well..maybe if Americans weren&#8217;t as willing to pay for the premium services the actual companies would work harder to &#8216;bring it&#8217; for them.</p>
<p>Just think..for a nation that refuses to mostly acknowledge an outside and co-operative tie with the rest of the world<br />
ie. alienates itself from many world-wide customs/standards (metric..need i say more..systems based on 10 are far easier to use!)<br />
this is a selling point for a business in itself.</p>
<p>To give a very small example, having lived in Pakistan and working with products that had multivoltage but european plugs..all the extension cords I bought there were multi sockets and would accept both american &amp; european plugs.</p>
<p>Yet here in the US, its sad that even the most expensive extension cord wouldnt have an option for a european plug..which is where your overpriced $10 conversion plug from radioshack comes in.</p>
<p>Regardless&#8230;my apologies on the rant but I&#8217;ve felt this like forever and in closing i feel that as an individual or as a nation, when you close yourself off from the world, in your belief that you are somehow self-sufficient or perhaps superior you stop learning and start dying.</p>
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		<title>By: dario betancourt</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/03/weekly-contest-why-europe-first/comment-page-1/#comment-179888</link>
		<dc:creator>dario betancourt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 01:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[European market is better choice because operators have more chances to implement solutions across the continent involving several countries. This is in my concern a good opportunity for RIM to increase their reputation (I know they already had a lot!)  deploying solutions in a market with high economical potential. I think they also had a mature solutions because in USA had a lot of hot spots but in Europe had a lot of solutions over mobile network. doe example in Spain, user can check in their cellphones the next turn for the that are waiting in the bus stop only sending a mesage and the answer depend of the site without the user send any information regard it]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>European market is better choice because operators have more chances to implement solutions across the continent involving several countries. This is in my concern a good opportunity for RIM to increase their reputation (I know they already had a lot!)  deploying solutions in a market with high economical potential. I think they also had a mature solutions because in USA had a lot of hot spots but in Europe had a lot of solutions over mobile network. doe example in Spain, user can check in their cellphones the next turn for the that are waiting in the bus stop only sending a mesage and the answer depend of the site without the user send any information regard it</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Contest: Kid in a Candy Store &#124; BlackBerry Cool</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/03/weekly-contest-why-europe-first/comment-page-1/#comment-179145</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekly Contest: Kid in a Candy Store &#124; BlackBerry Cool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] WEEK&#8217;S WINNER was a tough call, but we&#8217;re going to give it to Collin, with honorable mentions to Edward and Eric. Collin will be getting a copy of Chuzzle for his [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] WEEK&#8217;S WINNER was a tough call, but we&#8217;re going to give it to Collin, with honorable mentions to Edward and Eric. Collin will be getting a copy of Chuzzle for his [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/03/weekly-contest-why-europe-first/comment-page-1/#comment-178627</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phone availability in the US relies on the US carriers &quot;picking up&quot; a phone and agreeing to certain rules and limitations with the phone manufacturer. Apple&#039;s iPhone was released very exclusively by AT&amp;T because of a binding contract signed between the two parties. Even the popular Blackberry Curve is AT&amp;T only right now because AT&amp;T picked it up (being the biggest Blackberry provider in the country) but RIM had to agree to a 90 day exclusivity deal with AT&amp;T. Also, in many ways, Blackberry has flooded the market with new models in the states. AT&amp;T has probably refused to sell some of these new devices for 2 reasons. First, it is looking to unload all the devices it has in stock. It doesn&#039;t make sense to market the 8300 Curve for 3 months and then release the GPS variant. Second, it is entirely possible AT&amp;T has not decided on its Wi-Fi longterm plan as far as the 8820 goes. T-Mobile will probably want to work out some the kinks with its new Wi-Fi at home before carrying the Blackberry. Also, maybe carriers are afraid business users using Wi-Fi will hurt their current data plan profits as many business people will have access to Wi-Fi at home and work.

What I want to see is Blackberry release 3G (HSDPA) Blackberries in Europe (where 3G is much more common) and then bringing a 3G berry to the states.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phone availability in the US relies on the US carriers &#8220;picking up&#8221; a phone and agreeing to certain rules and limitations with the phone manufacturer. Apple&#8217;s iPhone was released very exclusively by AT&amp;T because of a binding contract signed between the two parties. Even the popular Blackberry Curve is AT&amp;T only right now because AT&amp;T picked it up (being the biggest Blackberry provider in the country) but RIM had to agree to a 90 day exclusivity deal with AT&amp;T. Also, in many ways, Blackberry has flooded the market with new models in the states. AT&amp;T has probably refused to sell some of these new devices for 2 reasons. First, it is looking to unload all the devices it has in stock. It doesn&#8217;t make sense to market the 8300 Curve for 3 months and then release the GPS variant. Second, it is entirely possible AT&amp;T has not decided on its Wi-Fi longterm plan as far as the 8820 goes. T-Mobile will probably want to work out some the kinks with its new Wi-Fi at home before carrying the Blackberry. Also, maybe carriers are afraid business users using Wi-Fi will hurt their current data plan profits as many business people will have access to Wi-Fi at home and work.</p>
<p>What I want to see is Blackberry release 3G (HSDPA) Blackberries in Europe (where 3G is much more common) and then bringing a 3G berry to the states.</p>
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		<title>By: Vodafone to carry BlackBerry Pearl 2 by September? &#124; BlackBerry Cool</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/03/weekly-contest-why-europe-first/comment-page-1/#comment-178344</link>
		<dc:creator>Vodafone to carry BlackBerry Pearl 2 by September? &#124; BlackBerry Cool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] aren&#8217;t getting the same treatment this side of the pond? Check out our Weekly Contest, &#8220;Why Europe First?&#8221; and share your [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: funrun</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/03/weekly-contest-why-europe-first/comment-page-1/#comment-177415</link>
		<dc:creator>funrun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haha, I&#039;m German, and also using Vodafone. Ill get the 8310 soon. Why do you have a problem with that? Do you think its normal, that Americans get everything first? 

Europe is a bigger market than the USA, because, at first, RIM is new in Europe, and we have more people. 

Greets, funrun]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, I&#8217;m German, and also using Vodafone. Ill get the 8310 soon. Why do you have a problem with that? Do you think its normal, that Americans get everything first? </p>
<p>Europe is a bigger market than the USA, because, at first, RIM is new in Europe, and we have more people. </p>
<p>Greets, funrun</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/03/weekly-contest-why-europe-first/comment-page-1/#comment-177333</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 02:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EMEA has in the past had very steep voice and data rate plan unlike what we see here in the US and Canada with acceptable unlimited all you can eat data plans and now UMTS/HSDPA or 1xRTT/EvDO Rel A 3G networks.  note while UMTS (3G) is growing rapidly in EMEA, it is often spotty and UMTS vs. great coverage and HSDPA.

This is where wifi (and VoIP, Skype) has been popular - to save voice and data charges.  Samsung launched the BlackJack with ATT as SGH-i607 w/ HSDPA but in EMEA and Asia it is thw SGH-i320 and SGH-i600 with UMTS/WiFi and think GPS to boot.  non US require wifi.

my opinion wifi is yesterday - give me HSDPA or EvDO Rel A with simultaneous voice/data.

cheers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EMEA has in the past had very steep voice and data rate plan unlike what we see here in the US and Canada with acceptable unlimited all you can eat data plans and now UMTS/HSDPA or 1xRTT/EvDO Rel A 3G networks.  note while UMTS (3G) is growing rapidly in EMEA, it is often spotty and UMTS vs. great coverage and HSDPA.</p>
<p>This is where wifi (and VoIP, Skype) has been popular &#8211; to save voice and data charges.  Samsung launched the BlackJack with ATT as SGH-i607 w/ HSDPA but in EMEA and Asia it is thw SGH-i320 and SGH-i600 with UMTS/WiFi and think GPS to boot.  non US require wifi.</p>
<p>my opinion wifi is yesterday &#8211; give me HSDPA or EvDO Rel A with simultaneous voice/data.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/03/weekly-contest-why-europe-first/comment-page-1/#comment-177269</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 21:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They can make more money in Europe. It really is that simple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They can make more money in Europe. It really is that simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Collin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Collin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TD is right for reasons that he doesn&#039;t clearly explain. The long history of state regulation and the proliferation of standards across the EU has created a reasonably standard (in terms of sophistication, billing standards and frequencies) cellphone network in Europe. Europe, like Japan but unlike the US, has already settled on what 3G should mean. As a result, real wireless broadband has spread across the continent a lot faster than here in the States (also population density may factor in). I don&#039;t know the exact numbers, but I believe that there is a substantial gap between the two markets for HSDPA, meaning more people can use it. Here, it is still pretty much worthless to include HSDPA. Apple knew this, so it bet against 3G. EVDO is finally growing up, but carrier politics limits the markets (despite this RIM has long support EVDO, smartly too if I may add). Also, Americans are still neophytes and tend to accept technological change slowly. Essentially, by going to Europe, RIM has avoided large limits on there market and avoided corporate politics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TD is right for reasons that he doesn&#8217;t clearly explain. The long history of state regulation and the proliferation of standards across the EU has created a reasonably standard (in terms of sophistication, billing standards and frequencies) cellphone network in Europe. Europe, like Japan but unlike the US, has already settled on what 3G should mean. As a result, real wireless broadband has spread across the continent a lot faster than here in the States (also population density may factor in). I don&#8217;t know the exact numbers, but I believe that there is a substantial gap between the two markets for HSDPA, meaning more people can use it. Here, it is still pretty much worthless to include HSDPA. Apple knew this, so it bet against 3G. EVDO is finally growing up, but carrier politics limits the markets (despite this RIM has long support EVDO, smartly too if I may add). Also, Americans are still neophytes and tend to accept technological change slowly. Essentially, by going to Europe, RIM has avoided large limits on there market and avoided corporate politics.</p>
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		<title>By: miblackberry.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>miblackberry.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why not?

Signed by a European user :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not?</p>
<p>Signed by a European user <img src='http://www.blackberrycool.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TD</title>
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		<dc:creator>TD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The European market is very mature and devices can be launched across all of them at once if desired as there is no CDMA requirement.  The Euro carriers are also some of the most powerful in the world.  Vodafone is one of the largest and owns Verizon.  TMO is european, etc.  The question should not be, &#039;Why does Europe get a new device first?&#039;, rather, &#039;Why has it taken so long for a Euro-first launch?&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The European market is very mature and devices can be launched across all of them at once if desired as there is no CDMA requirement.  The Euro carriers are also some of the most powerful in the world.  Vodafone is one of the largest and owns Verizon.  TMO is european, etc.  The question should not be, &#8216;Why does Europe get a new device first?&#8217;, rather, &#8216;Why has it taken so long for a Euro-first launch?&#8217;.</p>
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