Comments on: EXCLUSIVE: AT&T neuters the BlackBerry 8820 in favor of the iPhone http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/ The voice of the BlackBerry community. Sat, 25 May 2013 13:02:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: BlackBerry Crippled By AT&T So It Can't Compete with iPhone « The Agonist http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-525810 BlackBerry Crippled By AT&T So It Can't Compete with iPhone « The Agonist Mon, 24 Sep 2012 02:24:35 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-525810 [...] Crippled By AT&T So It Can't Compete with iPhone By Ian Welsh, on August 20th, 2007 This is what you get when you have an oligopoly that isn’t properly regulated and is exactly w… We’ve just received word from one of our friends inside AT&T that the US carrier has been [...]

]]> By: AT&T cripple BlackBerry 8820 GPS in bias to iPhone » Rayaoto Blog http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-454746 AT&T cripple BlackBerry 8820 GPS in bias to iPhone » Rayaoto Blog Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:52:22 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-454746 [...] out your felt tip pens, kids, and colour in the faces of AT&T executives bright shame-red.  BlackBerry Cool have been tipped off that the carrier – currently riding a tide of iPhone-inflated success [...]

]]> By: All good things… | BlackBerry Cool http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-335476 All good things… | BlackBerry Cool Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:32:37 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-335476 [...] my part? I’ve had the opportunity to meet with many industry luminaries (see above photos), broken some pretty major news, launched a cool mobile application, hosted breakthrough industry events, and played with so many [...]

]]> By: JC http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-307907 JC Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:03:24 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-307907 I do not know where you are getting your crazy comment about apple products not selling well. Are you blind or do you not keep up with news. I am a PC user but let’s be frank and look at facts. The rate macs, ipods, iphones are selling are just incredible compared to competitors. The new iphone 3G is an amazing device, not because of the hardware…but the intuitive software. No matter if you like Steve Jobs or not, he is a brilliant marketing guru and knows exactly what the majority (obviously not awax)of the people want. Blackberry was a great device…but they need to really start innovating more than listening to all these complainers. Blackberry is going to lose serious market share if they dont come up with something, NOW.

]]> By: JC http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-486943 JC Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:03:00 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-486943 I do not know where you are getting your crazy comment about apple products not selling well. Are you blind or do you not keep up with news. I am a PC user but let’s be frank and look at facts. The rate macs, ipods, iphones are selling are just incredible compared to competitors. The new iphone 3G is an amazing device, not because of the hardware…but the intuitive software. No matter if you like Steve Jobs or not, he is a brilliant marketing guru and knows exactly what the majority (obviously not awax)of the people want. Blackberry was a great device…but they need to really start innovating more than listening to all these complainers. Blackberry is going to lose serious market share if they dont come up with something, NOW.

]]> By: JC http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-486944 JC Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:03:00 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-486944 I do not know where you are getting your crazy comment about apple products not selling well. Are you blind or do you not keep up with news. I am a PC user but let’s be frank and look at facts. The rate macs, ipods, iphones are selling are just incredible compared to competitors. The new iphone 3G is an amazing device, not because of the hardware…but the intuitive software. No matter if you like Steve Jobs or not, he is a brilliant marketing guru and knows exactly what the majority (obviously not awax)of the people want. Blackberry was a great device…but they need to really start innovating more than listening to all these complainers. Blackberry is going to lose serious market share if they dont come up with something, NOW.

]]> By: JC http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-486945 JC Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:03:00 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-486945 I do not know where you are getting your crazy comment about apple products not selling well. Are you blind or do you not keep up with news. I am a PC user but let’s be frank and look at facts. The rate macs, ipods, iphones are selling are just incredible compared to competitors. The new iphone 3G is an amazing device, not because of the hardware…but the intuitive software. No matter if you like Steve Jobs or not, he is a brilliant marketing guru and knows exactly what the majority (obviously not awax)of the people want. Blackberry was a great device…but they need to really start innovating more than listening to all these complainers. Blackberry is going to lose serious market share if they dont come up with something, NOW.

]]> By: JC http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-486946 JC Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:03:00 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-486946 I do not know where you are getting your crazy comment about apple products not selling well. Are you blind or do you not keep up with news. I am a PC user but let’s be frank and look at facts. The rate macs, ipods, iphones are selling are just incredible compared to competitors. The new iphone 3G is an amazing device, not because of the hardware…but the intuitive software. No matter if you like Steve Jobs or not, he is a brilliant marketing guru and knows exactly what the majority (obviously not awax)of the people want. Blackberry was a great device…but they need to really start innovating more than listening to all these complainers. Blackberry is going to lose serious market share if they dont come up with something, NOW.

]]> By: awax http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-287324 awax Mon, 12 May 2008 16:48:10 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-287324 The iphone is pathetic. Well Apple is pathetic. They make shitty products that are supposed to be unique and superior but they don’t sell. Then they make companies like att do things that should be illegal(blocking competition). Bottom line is that when my contract runs up in september with att, they better give me a blackberry 8820 with GPS for no extra charge. It comes with the capability so they should give it to us…and no i will not buy an iphone because they are outrageously priced and i like the black berry phones much better anyway. Im pissed but this consumer(like many others) will just go to T mobile and have a blackberry with GPS and no extra charges. I don’t like att anyway, it’s just an excuse to take my business elsewhere when it would be simpler just to extend my contract. Oh well, GPS would cost at least 10 or 15 bucks EXTRA a month for a blackberry with att than at T mobile where they let you use RIM which is free. With all the business people getting smartphones you bet they will shop around when they are faced with a choice between 15 extra dollars a month or going somewhere else. Honestly, this just makes the iphone look pathetic…like they aren’t selling very well. And their not, and thats why blackberry has been neutered. RIM shouldnt stand for this!

]]> By: awax http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-486942 awax Mon, 12 May 2008 16:48:00 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-486942 The iphone is pathetic. Well Apple is pathetic. They make shitty products that are supposed to be unique and superior but they don’t sell. Then they make companies like att do things that should be illegal(blocking competition). Bottom line is that when my contract runs up in september with att, they better give me a blackberry 8820 with GPS for no extra charge. It comes with the capability so they should give it to us…and no i will not buy an iphone because they are outrageously priced and i like the black berry phones much better anyway. Im pissed but this consumer(like many others) will just go to T mobile and have a blackberry with GPS and no extra charges. I don’t like att anyway, it’s just an excuse to take my business elsewhere when it would be simpler just to extend my contract. Oh well, GPS would cost at least 10 or 15 bucks EXTRA a month for a blackberry with att than at T mobile where they let you use RIM which is free. With all the business people getting smartphones you bet they will shop around when they are faced with a choice between 15 extra dollars a month or going somewhere else. Honestly, this just makes the iphone look pathetic…like they aren’t selling very well. And their not, and thats why blackberry has been neutered. RIM shouldnt stand for this!

]]> By: marketguy http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-268570 marketguy Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:05:26 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-268570 It’s a free marketplace. If AT&T does not want to play fair and threaten to not buy RIM’s devices all RIM needs to do is threaten to cut off AT&T’s access to the RIM network and write an app that will unlock AT&T blackberry devices so customers can migrate to other networks. AT&T has a LOT more to loose with all the existing Blackberry handsets out there. All of AT&T’s customers could march down to T-Mobile and activate their handsets. If AT&T does not want the enterprise market thats their choice. Even a one day shutdown to the RIM market would have AT&T’s phone lines lit up with screaming customers canceling contracts.

RIM has their niche market. AT&T is just another crummy service provider. AT&T is probably one of the most evil companies out there. They are the main reason I refuse to buy an Iphone. Apple you screwed yourself by selling out to the devil’s phone company!

]]> By: marketguy http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-486941 marketguy Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:05:00 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-486941 It’s a free marketplace. If AT&T does not want to play fair and threaten to not buy RIM’s devices all RIM needs to do is threaten to cut off AT&T’s access to the RIM network and write an app that will unlock AT&T blackberry devices so customers can migrate to other networks. AT&T has a LOT more to loose with all the existing Blackberry handsets out there. All of AT&T’s customers could march down to T-Mobile and activate their handsets. If AT&T does not want the enterprise market thats their choice. Even a one day shutdown to the RIM market would have AT&T’s phone lines lit up with screaming customers canceling contracts.

RIM has their niche market. AT&T is just another crummy service provider. AT&T is probably one of the most evil companies out there. They are the main reason I refuse to buy an Iphone. Apple you screwed yourself by selling out to the devil’s phone company!

]]> By: IceBerg http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-255359 IceBerg Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:25:26 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-255359 A few things, this article states the T-Mobile 8820 will be better. There is NO T-Mobile 8820 and there never will be, it’s an 8800 and does NOT have WiFi.

MegaCorps like AT&T can do as they please because YOU the consumers allow them to. I’ve worked in the cellular industry since about 1991 and I have watched how the the market flows. Large cell companies and guide the direction things go by limiting features or in the corporate sector.

It’s funny because they do something similar in the consumer sector. They get college students to jump on their bandwagon by introducing some feature you have to have.

However they can not predict everything. Texting is the biggest thing on college campuses and when parents started getting outrageous bills they started taking phones away and this was hurting the CellCos. This started the trend of free test messaging. This is proof that if you demand something and quit using their services till they cave they will indeed cave.

The only other option is to wait for the hackers to bypass this lockdown.In fact if you know the right people it’s already done. As is a universal algorithm for generating unlock codes on the 88xx series phones.

]]> By: IceBerg http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-486940 IceBerg Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:25:00 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-486940 A few things, this article states the T-Mobile 8820 will be better. There is NO T-Mobile 8820 and there never will be, it’s an 8800 and does NOT have WiFi.

MegaCorps like AT&T can do as they please because YOU the consumers allow them to. I’ve worked in the cellular industry since about 1991 and I have watched how the the market flows. Large cell companies and guide the direction things go by limiting features or in the corporate sector.

It’s funny because they do something similar in the consumer sector. They get college students to jump on their bandwagon by introducing some feature you have to have.

However they can not predict everything. Texting is the biggest thing on college campuses and when parents started getting outrageous bills they started taking phones away and this was hurting the CellCos. This started the trend of free test messaging. This is proof that if you demand something and quit using their services till they cave they will indeed cave.

The only other option is to wait for the hackers to bypass this lockdown.In fact if you know the right people it’s already done. As is a universal algorithm for generating unlock codes on the 88xx series phones.

]]> By: Coreburn http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-227888 Coreburn Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:39:39 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-227888 I just got an 8820 through AT&T, and one of the first things I did is install Google Maps which seems to use the GPS just fine… oh and it also has Wifi…

]]> By: Coreburn http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-486939 Coreburn Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:39:00 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-486939 I just got an 8820 through AT&T, and one of the first things I did is install Google Maps which seems to use the GPS just fine… oh and it also has Wifi…

]]> By: AT&T buckled ??? - BlackBerryForums.com : Your Number One BlackBerry Community http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-225090 AT&T buckled ??? - BlackBerryForums.com : Your Number One BlackBerry Community Thu, 03 Jan 2008 02:58:45 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-225090 [...] Originally Posted by ezrunner Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8800/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100) I believe that was all suspect info! Gps wasn’t disabled and wifi works just fine. EXCLUSIVE: AT&T neuters the BlackBerry 8820 in favor of the iPhone | BlackBerry Cool [...]

]]> By: david http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-219903 david Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:51:14 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-219903 Bought a usa bb on e-bay – no sim. It does not work on T-mobile in the uk -contract. Anyone help please?

Many thanks

]]> By: david http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-486937 david Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:51:00 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-486937 Bought a usa bb on e-bay – no sim. It does not work on T-mobile in the uk -contract. Anyone help please?

Many thanks

]]> By: david http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/exclusive-att-neuters-the-blackberry-8820-in-favor-of-the-iphone/comment-page-5/#comment-486938 david Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:51:00 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/08/16/005386/#comment-486938 Bought a usa bb on e-bay – no sim. It does not work on T-mobile in the uk -contract. Anyone help please?

Many thanks

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