Comments on: BES failover software released http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/bes-failover-software-released/ The voice of the BlackBerry community. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Gregg S.A. Tuijnenburg http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/bes-failover-software-released/comment-page-1/#comment-329810 Gregg S.A. Tuijnenburg Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:45:49 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/005915/#comment-329810 I can't agree more Brennels .. I can’t agree more Brennels ..

]]> By: Gregg S.A. Tuijnenburg http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/bes-failover-software-released/comment-page-1/#comment-487584 Gregg S.A. Tuijnenburg Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:45:00 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/005915/#comment-487584 I can't agree more Brennels .. I can’t agree more Brennels ..

]]> By: brennels http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/bes-failover-software-released/comment-page-1/#comment-329802 brennels Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:36:39 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/005915/#comment-329802 No matter what solution you are looking it’s never wrong to do your research, compare all product capabilities, get the facts, request customer references or case studies and you won't be misled from gathering your own information. And beware of those who try to put words in your mouth. No matter what solution you are looking it’s never wrong to do your research, compare all product capabilities, get the facts, request customer references or case studies and you won’t be misled from gathering your own information. And beware of those who try to put words in your mouth.

]]> By: brennels http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/bes-failover-software-released/comment-page-1/#comment-487583 brennels Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:36:00 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/005915/#comment-487583 No matter what solution you are looking it’s never wrong to do your research, compare all product capabilities, get the facts, request customer references or case studies and you won't be misled from gathering your own information. And beware of those who try to put words in your mouth. No matter what solution you are looking it’s never wrong to do your research, compare all product capabilities, get the facts, request customer references or case studies and you won’t be misled from gathering your own information. And beware of those who try to put words in your mouth.

]]> By: Gregg S.A. Tuijnenburg http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/bes-failover-software-released/comment-page-1/#comment-329759 Gregg S.A. Tuijnenburg Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:39:44 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/005915/#comment-329759 Erik, Regarding the pricing structure it depends on how you look at it. DT is priced on a 'per server' basis while Neverfail is priced per server pair. Also both products may only be compared on a 'replication' level (where DT does not copy the registry changes accross while Neverfail does - what is an application worth without the registry being consistent?). Neverfail is application aware and so takes care of the whole chain of applications where the BlackBerry Enterprise Server is depending on. Neverfail is all about 'Continuous Availability' what simply means that the 'enduser should be able to use the application at all times', no matter what failure occurs (hardware-failure,software-failure, data corruption, registry corruption, connectivity problems, performance de-crease etc.). So there's no way to compare the two products. If you're looking for an automated failover solution so your end-users will always be able to use your application: go for Neverfail, without a doubt. As Brennels said earlier, DT is more complex to implement (build of secondary server = manually), Neverfail is easy to install, all automated & easy to maintain. Best regards, Gregg. Erik,

Regarding the pricing structure it depends on how you look at it. DT is priced on a ‘per server’ basis while Neverfail is priced per server pair.

Also both products may only be compared on a ‘replication’ level (where DT does not copy the registry changes accross while Neverfail does – what is an application worth without the registry being consistent?).

Neverfail is application aware and so takes care of the whole chain of applications where the BlackBerry Enterprise Server is depending on.

Neverfail is all about ‘Continuous Availability’ what simply means that the ‘enduser should be able to use the application at all times’, no matter what failure occurs (hardware-failure,software-failure, data corruption, registry corruption, connectivity problems, performance de-crease etc.).

So there’s no way to compare the two products. If you’re looking for an automated failover solution so your end-users will always be able to use your application: go for Neverfail, without a doubt.

As Brennels said earlier, DT is more complex to implement (build of secondary server = manually), Neverfail is easy to install, all automated & easy to maintain.

Best regards,
Gregg.

]]> By: Gregg S.A. Tuijnenburg http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/bes-failover-software-released/comment-page-1/#comment-487582 Gregg S.A. Tuijnenburg Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:39:00 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/005915/#comment-487582 Erik, Regarding the pricing structure it depends on how you look at it. DT is priced on a 'per server' basis while Neverfail is priced per server pair. Also both products may only be compared on a 'replication' level (where DT does not copy the registry changes accross while Neverfail does - what is an application worth without the registry being consistent?). Neverfail is application aware and so takes care of the whole chain of applications where the BlackBerry Enterprise Server is depending on. Neverfail is all about 'Continuous Availability' what simply means that the 'enduser should be able to use the application at all times', no matter what failure occurs (hardware-failure,software-failure, data corruption, registry corruption, connectivity problems, performance de-crease etc.). So there's no way to compare the two products. If you're looking for an automated failover solution so your end-users will always be able to use your application: go for Neverfail, without a doubt. As Brennels said earlier, DT is more complex to implement (build of secondary server = manually), Neverfail is easy to install, all automated & easy to maintain. Best regards, Gregg. Erik,

Regarding the pricing structure it depends on how you look at it. DT is priced on a ‘per server’ basis while Neverfail is priced per server pair.

Also both products may only be compared on a ‘replication’ level (where DT does not copy the registry changes accross while Neverfail does – what is an application worth without the registry being consistent?).

Neverfail is application aware and so takes care of the whole chain of applications where the BlackBerry Enterprise Server is depending on.

Neverfail is all about ‘Continuous Availability’ what simply means that the ‘enduser should be able to use the application at all times’, no matter what failure occurs (hardware-failure,software-failure, data corruption, registry corruption, connectivity problems, performance de-crease etc.).

So there’s no way to compare the two products. If you’re looking for an automated failover solution so your end-users will always be able to use your application: go for Neverfail, without a doubt.

As Brennels said earlier, DT is more complex to implement (build of secondary server = manually), Neverfail is easy to install, all automated & easy to maintain.

Best regards,
Gregg.

]]> By: Brennels http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/bes-failover-software-released/comment-page-1/#comment-326937 Brennels Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:43:30 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/005915/#comment-326937 Hi Erik, it has been a while since I have implemented Double-Take for BES but know there have been some significant improvements with the DT Application Manager that will help auto-discover the BES server and related database. There is usually two parts the BES server and the SQL backend. Double-Take will replicate all the changes from the primary server to the DR target and in the event of a disaster redirect the DNS, mount the database and start all the relevent services. There are some white papers on BES that may be useful to you http://www.doubletake.com/Documents/DBTK/Ensuring_Availability_of_Blackberry_Enterprise_Server.pdf Hope this helps, - Regards Hi Erik, it has been a while since I have implemented Double-Take for BES but know there have been some significant improvements with the DT Application Manager that will help auto-discover the BES server and related database. There is usually two parts the BES server and the SQL backend. Double-Take will replicate all the changes from the primary server to the DR target and in the event of a disaster redirect the DNS, mount the database and start all the relevent services. There are some white papers on BES that may be useful to you http://www.doubletake.com/Documents/DBTK/Ensuring_Availability_of_Blackberry_Enterprise_Server.pdf

Hope this helps,

- Regards

]]> By: Brennels http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/bes-failover-software-released/comment-page-1/#comment-487581 Brennels Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:43:00 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/005915/#comment-487581 Hi Erik, it has been a while since I have implemented Double-Take for BES but know there have been some significant improvements with the DT Application Manager that will help auto-discover the BES server and related database. There is usually two parts the BES server and the SQL backend. Double-Take will replicate all the changes from the primary server to the DR target and in the event of a disaster redirect the DNS, mount the database and start all the relevent services. There are some white papers on BES that may be useful to you http://www.doubletake.com/Documents/DBTK/Ensuring_Availability_of_Blackberry_Enterprise_Server.pdf Hope this helps, - Regards Hi Erik, it has been a while since I have implemented Double-Take for BES but know there have been some significant improvements with the DT Application Manager that will help auto-discover the BES server and related database. There is usually two parts the BES server and the SQL backend. Double-Take will replicate all the changes from the primary server to the DR target and in the event of a disaster redirect the DNS, mount the database and start all the relevent services. There are some white papers on BES that may be useful to you http://www.doubletake.com/Documents/DBTK/Ensuring_Availability_of_Blackberry_Enterprise_Server.pdf

Hope this helps,

- Regards

]]> By: Erik Walraven http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/bes-failover-software-released/comment-page-1/#comment-326882 Erik Walraven Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:54:12 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/005915/#comment-326882 Neverfail in contrast to Doubletake is more as twice so expensive. That' s one of the reasons that Doubletake is an interesting player on the relative small 'BES failover' market. What I am wondering is, has anyone got any experiences with Doubletake? Pls share them with me, because I am building a failover situation at this moment. Neverfail in contrast to Doubletake is more as twice so expensive. That’ s one of the reasons that Doubletake is an interesting player on the relative small ‘BES failover’ market.

What I am wondering is, has anyone got any experiences with Doubletake? Pls share them with me, because I am building a failover situation at this moment.

]]> By: Erik Walraven http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/bes-failover-software-released/comment-page-1/#comment-487580 Erik Walraven Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:54:00 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/005915/#comment-487580 Neverfail in contrast to Doubletake is more as twice so expensive. That' s one of the reasons that Doubletake is an interesting player on the relative small 'BES failover' market. What I am wondering is, has anyone got any experiences with Doubletake? Pls share them with me, because I am building a failover situation at this moment. Neverfail in contrast to Doubletake is more as twice so expensive. That’ s one of the reasons that Doubletake is an interesting player on the relative small ‘BES failover’ market.

What I am wondering is, has anyone got any experiences with Doubletake? Pls share them with me, because I am building a failover situation at this moment.

]]> By: nick harmer http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/bes-failover-software-released/comment-page-1/#comment-273686 nick harmer Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:55:48 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/005915/#comment-273686 Neverfail has offered HA/DR for BES servers for more than two years with hundreds of deployed customers. See Neverfail at WES where they are a Gold Sponsor Neverfail has offered HA/DR for BES servers for more than two years with hundreds of deployed customers. See Neverfail at WES where they are a Gold Sponsor

]]> By: nick harmer http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/bes-failover-software-released/comment-page-1/#comment-487579 nick harmer Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:55:00 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/005915/#comment-487579 Neverfail has offered HA/DR for BES servers for more than two years with hundreds of deployed customers. See Neverfail at WES where they are a Gold Sponsor Neverfail has offered HA/DR for BES servers for more than two years with hundreds of deployed customers. See Neverfail at WES where they are a Gold Sponsor

]]> By: WES Exhibitor Spotlight: Double-Take Software | BlackBerry Cool http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/bes-failover-software-released/comment-page-1/#comment-271753 WES Exhibitor Spotlight: Double-Take Software | BlackBerry Cool Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:45:11 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/005915/#comment-271753 [...] normal business continues, often within minutes or even seconds of the service interruption. They only recently announced BES support in addition to their support for Lotus Notes, Exchange, and so on, so [...] [...] normal business continues, often within minutes or even seconds of the service interruption. They only recently announced BES support in addition to their support for Lotus Notes, Exchange, and so on, so [...]

]]> By: booyaa http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/bes-failover-software-released/comment-page-1/#comment-199197 booyaa Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:18:56 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/005915/#comment-199197 How does this compare to neverfail's offering? Neverfail provides load balancing and high availability across all your enterprise apps i.e. Mail, Fax and Blackberry. How does this compare to neverfail’s offering? Neverfail provides load balancing and high availability across all your enterprise apps i.e. Mail, Fax and Blackberry.

]]> By: booyaa http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/bes-failover-software-released/comment-page-1/#comment-487578 booyaa Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:18:00 +0000 http://blackberrycool.com/2007/10/26/005915/#comment-487578 How does this compare to neverfail's offering? Neverfail provides load balancing and high availability across all your enterprise apps i.e. Mail, Fax and Blackberry. How does this compare to neverfail’s offering? Neverfail provides load balancing and high availability across all your enterprise apps i.e. Mail, Fax and Blackberry.

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