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	<title>Comments on: India issues RIM ultimatum</title>
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		<title>By: RIM Assures India Lawful Interception Access by January 31</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2008/05/30/india-issues-rim-ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-511946</link>
		<dc:creator>RIM Assures India Lawful Interception Access by January 31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 19:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Arab Emirates and quickly spread to Saudi Arabia and came back to life in India (since they had similar problems with BlackBerry two years earlier). Because of the way that BlackBerry phones encrypt messages as they&#8217;re sent to and from [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Arab Emirates and quickly spread to Saudi Arabia and came back to life in India (since they had similar problems with BlackBerry two years earlier). Because of the way that BlackBerry phones encrypt messages as they&#8217;re sent to and from [...]</p>
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		<title>By: thadude</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2008/05/30/india-issues-rim-ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-297728</link>
		<dc:creator>thadude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems to be good enough for crimals...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to be good enough for crimals&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: thadude</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2008/05/30/india-issues-rim-ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-489364</link>
		<dc:creator>thadude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems to be good enough for crimals...

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=19c562bb-7605-4892-ad87-61ff4e6667ad&amp;k=41023]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to be good enough for crimals&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: WickedWilly</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2008/05/30/india-issues-rim-ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-296365</link>
		<dc:creator>WickedWilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 01:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are backdoors through most firewalls and thats all that protects a BES server. Sounds like the Indians are incompetent. The encryption keys can  be accessed by cloning an IT administrators station and using their password. Its not easy, but it must happen all the time, otherwise the cops in the US would be screaming about it.   The simple option for RIM is to make an API available so software can be quietly plugged into BES without the IT guru detecting it.

BIS is supposed to be protected by RIM. They supposedly have a whole team of people who do stuff to protect BIS from hackers and the cops.  Who knows though? Maybe RIM made it easy for the cops to read your email. Stupid, and if they did, I&#039;m buying an iPhone, the only reason I use blackberry is for the privacy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are backdoors through most firewalls and thats all that protects a BES server. Sounds like the Indians are incompetent. The encryption keys can  be accessed by cloning an IT administrators station and using their password. Its not easy, but it must happen all the time, otherwise the cops in the US would be screaming about it.   The simple option for RIM is to make an API available so software can be quietly plugged into BES without the IT guru detecting it.</p>
<p>BIS is supposed to be protected by RIM. They supposedly have a whole team of people who do stuff to protect BIS from hackers and the cops.  Who knows though? Maybe RIM made it easy for the cops to read your email. Stupid, and if they did, I&#8217;m buying an iPhone, the only reason I use blackberry is for the privacy.</p>
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		<title>By: WickedWilly</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2008/05/30/india-issues-rim-ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-489363</link>
		<dc:creator>WickedWilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are backdoors through most firewalls and thats all that protects a BES server. Sounds like the Indians are incompetent. The encryption keys can  be accessed by cloning an IT administrators station and using their password. Its not easy, but it must happen all the time, otherwise the cops in the US would be screaming about it.   The simple option for RIM is to make an API available so software can be quietly plugged into BES without the IT guru detecting it.

BIS is supposed to be protected by RIM. They supposedly have a whole team of people who do stuff to protect BIS from hackers and the cops.  Who knows though? Maybe RIM made it easy for the cops to read your email. Stupid, and if they did, I&#039;m buying an iPhone, the only reason I use blackberry is for the privacy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are backdoors through most firewalls and thats all that protects a BES server. Sounds like the Indians are incompetent. The encryption keys can  be accessed by cloning an IT administrators station and using their password. Its not easy, but it must happen all the time, otherwise the cops in the US would be screaming about it.   The simple option for RIM is to make an API available so software can be quietly plugged into BES without the IT guru detecting it.</p>
<p>BIS is supposed to be protected by RIM. They supposedly have a whole team of people who do stuff to protect BIS from hackers and the cops.  Who knows though? Maybe RIM made it easy for the cops to read your email. Stupid, and if they did, I&#8217;m buying an iPhone, the only reason I use blackberry is for the privacy.</p>
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		<title>By: BlackBerry Cool Podcast: Episode 30 &#124; BlackBerry Cool</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2008/05/30/india-issues-rim-ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-296349</link>
		<dc:creator>BlackBerry Cool Podcast: Episode 30 &#124; BlackBerry Cool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 00:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Neverfail, along with the week&#8217;s news, including the latest on the BlackBerry Kickstart, more disputes over the BlackBerry rollout in India, and a couple of international releases. Get your MP3 on, your [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Neverfail, along with the week&#8217;s news, including the latest on the BlackBerry Kickstart, more disputes over the BlackBerry rollout in India, and a couple of international releases. Get your MP3 on, your [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BlackBerry Cool Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2008/05/30/india-issues-rim-ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-296315</link>
		<dc:creator>BlackBerry Cool Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 23:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haha, you almost make it sound like Mike and Jim are rolling out of bed together, Bertie. ;)

That&#039;s a solid point, though. Since we&#039;re only hearing a part of the story, it&#039;s likely that they&#039;re talking about BIS customers, but I get the feeling that PIN messaging is also an issue for them, since there was some talk about tough-to-crack communication between BlackBerry devices.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, you almost make it sound like Mike and Jim are rolling out of bed together, Bertie. <img src='http://www.blackberrycool.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That&#8217;s a solid point, though. Since we&#8217;re only hearing a part of the story, it&#8217;s likely that they&#8217;re talking about BIS customers, but I get the feeling that PIN messaging is also an issue for them, since there was some talk about tough-to-crack communication between BlackBerry devices.</p>
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		<title>By: BlackBerry Cool Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2008/05/30/india-issues-rim-ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-489362</link>
		<dc:creator>BlackBerry Cool Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 23:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haha, you almost make it sound like Mike and Jim are rolling out of bed together, Bertie. ;)

That&#039;s a solid point, though. Since we&#039;re only hearing a part of the story, it&#039;s likely that they&#039;re talking about BIS customers, but I get the feeling that PIN messaging is also an issue for them, since there was some talk about tough-to-crack communication between BlackBerry devices.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, you almost make it sound like Mike and Jim are rolling out of bed together, Bertie. <img src='http://www.blackberrycool.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That&#8217;s a solid point, though. Since we&#8217;re only hearing a part of the story, it&#8217;s likely that they&#8217;re talking about BIS customers, but I get the feeling that PIN messaging is also an issue for them, since there was some talk about tough-to-crack communication between BlackBerry devices.</p>
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		<title>By: bertiebassett</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2008/05/30/india-issues-rim-ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-296311</link>
		<dc:creator>bertiebassett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 23:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[there are NO CODES
there are NO CODES 
there are NO CODES

well in BESland definately. BIS is a bit different as RIM host the server themselves and just &#039;paint&#039; it a bit to look like the carriers&#039;

In BESland the only two bits that have the &#039;message encryption/decryption keys&#039; are the device and the BES which is &#039;ahem&#039; behind the firewall. 

Does anyone really think that the solution would have so many &#039;security certifications&#039; let alone the recent sale of 19K devices to the FBI if Mike or Jim could roll out of bed and say &quot;hey lets read John Mayer&#039;s love notes to Jen today&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are NO CODES<br />
there are NO CODES<br />
there are NO CODES</p>
<p>well in BESland definately. BIS is a bit different as RIM host the server themselves and just &#8216;paint&#8217; it a bit to look like the carriers&#8217;</p>
<p>In BESland the only two bits that have the &#8216;message encryption/decryption keys&#8217; are the device and the BES which is &#8216;ahem&#8217; behind the firewall. </p>
<p>Does anyone really think that the solution would have so many &#8216;security certifications&#8217; let alone the recent sale of 19K devices to the FBI if Mike or Jim could roll out of bed and say &#8220;hey lets read John Mayer&#8217;s love notes to Jen today&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bertiebassett</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2008/05/30/india-issues-rim-ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-489360</link>
		<dc:creator>bertiebassett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[there are NO CODES
there are NO CODES 
there are NO CODES

well in BESland definately. BIS is a bit different as RIM host the server themselves and just &#039;paint&#039; it a bit to look like the carriers&#039;

In BESland the only two bits that have the &#039;message encryption/decryption keys&#039; are the device and the BES which is &#039;ahem&#039; behind the firewall. 

Does anyone really think that the solution would have so many &#039;security certifications&#039; let alone the recent sale of 19K devices to the FBI if Mike or Jim could roll out of bed and say &quot;hey lets read John Mayer&#039;s love notes to Jen today&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are NO CODES<br />
there are NO CODES<br />
there are NO CODES</p>
<p>well in BESland definately. BIS is a bit different as RIM host the server themselves and just &#8216;paint&#8217; it a bit to look like the carriers&#8217;</p>
<p>In BESland the only two bits that have the &#8216;message encryption/decryption keys&#8217; are the device and the BES which is &#8216;ahem&#8217; behind the firewall. </p>
<p>Does anyone really think that the solution would have so many &#8216;security certifications&#8217; let alone the recent sale of 19K devices to the FBI if Mike or Jim could roll out of bed and say &#8220;hey lets read John Mayer&#8217;s love notes to Jen today&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bertiebassett</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2008/05/30/india-issues-rim-ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-489361</link>
		<dc:creator>bertiebassett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[there are NO CODES
there are NO CODES 
there are NO CODES

well in BESland definately. BIS is a bit different as RIM host the server themselves and just &#039;paint&#039; it a bit to look like the carriers&#039;

In BESland the only two bits that have the &#039;message encryption/decryption keys&#039; are the device and the BES which is &#039;ahem&#039; behind the firewall. 

Does anyone really think that the solution would have so many &#039;security certifications&#039; let alone the recent sale of 19K devices to the FBI if Mike or Jim could roll out of bed and say &quot;hey lets read John Mayer&#039;s love notes to Jen today&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are NO CODES<br />
there are NO CODES<br />
there are NO CODES</p>
<p>well in BESland definately. BIS is a bit different as RIM host the server themselves and just &#8216;paint&#8217; it a bit to look like the carriers&#8217;</p>
<p>In BESland the only two bits that have the &#8216;message encryption/decryption keys&#8217; are the device and the BES which is &#8216;ahem&#8217; behind the firewall. </p>
<p>Does anyone really think that the solution would have so many &#8216;security certifications&#8217; let alone the recent sale of 19K devices to the FBI if Mike or Jim could roll out of bed and say &#8220;hey lets read John Mayer&#8217;s love notes to Jen today&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2008/05/30/india-issues-rim-ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-296178</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let India do without!  What guarantee is there that they will restrict their snooping to &quot;Indian traffic&quot; and not leak the codes?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let India do without!  What guarantee is there that they will restrict their snooping to &#8220;Indian traffic&#8221; and not leak the codes?</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2008/05/30/india-issues-rim-ultimatum/comment-page-1/#comment-489359</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let India do without!  What guarantee is there that they will restrict their snooping to &quot;Indian traffic&quot; and not leak the codes?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let India do without!  What guarantee is there that they will restrict their snooping to &#8220;Indian traffic&#8221; and not leak the codes?</p>
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