“Nevermind the BlackBerry Bold, Kickstart’s where it’s at”: Analyst

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BlackBerry Bold

RBC’s Michael Abramsky is encouraging investors to look beyond the BlackBerry Bold as an indicator of RIM’s future progress, citing the BlackBerry 8200 (Kickstart) and BlackBerry 9500 (Thunder) as the big things to be looking forward to.

Abramsky considers ‘concerns over BlackBerry Bold’s pricing, features vs. iPhone 3G as overdone,’ arguing that the Bold is ‘an evolutionary 3G Blackberry targeted at upgraders and prosumers/business users while the iPhone 3G is a consumer-focused device targeted at media-centric
Smartphone consumers.’

The ongoing iPhone 3G comparison is a little bit off – we definitely felt more at home putting the BlackBerry 9000 against the Nokia E71. The real head-butting won’t come between Apple and RIM, Abarmsky argues, but rather between the two of them and Nokia and Motorola. They are the bigger fish in the consumer pond, and could easily become targets as RIM and Apple gain traction in that market. Abramsky’s holding an ‘outperform’ rating for RIM’s stock with a $165 price target.

(via Barron’s)

  • DavidB

    I guess I sorta agree with him. All this talk for months comparing iPhone and Bold has been pure silliness. They are TOTALLY different devices that were developed for TOTALLY different markets. The fact that they are both coming out around the same time and both have 3G (and problematic 3G at that!) is REALLY the only similarity.

    Thunder is the RIM answer to iPhone. And Kickstart is the RIM answer to “cheap TMO flips”.

  • DavidB

    I guess I sorta agree with him. All this talk for months comparing iPhone and Bold has been pure silliness. They are TOTALLY different devices that were developed for TOTALLY different markets. The fact that they are both coming out around the same time and both have 3G (and problematic 3G at that!) is REALLY the only similarity.

    Thunder is the RIM answer to iPhone. And Kickstart is the RIM answer to “cheap TMO flips”.

  • Bryan

    I have been saying that the whole time.

  • Bryan

    I have been saying that the whole time.

  • Tommy G.

    Wait a second. The flagship BlackBerry Bold is nothing to write home about but the second banana Thunder and Kickstart aimed at the consumer market will be “revolutionary”? Please. I am a huge BlackBerry fan, Apple OWNS the touchscreen market with more than a hundred patents. Now we have an alleged “financial analyst” pushing a “buy” on BlackBerry, which has pegged its hopes on a “superior” physical keyboard, even though he and other analysts have reported less than satisfactory quality with the Bold’s squishy keys, 3G reception and slower browser speeds?

    Worst of all, this analyst is looking to the consumer side to right RIMM after acknowledging that the Bold’s shortcoming’s and high price plan will make it tougher for businesses–it’s core market–to quickly adopt en masse?

    Get me an iPhone–and another analyst.

    I dumped my RIMM shares this morning. RIMM is about to have a product rollout in the U.S. that will make Apple’s look relatively smooth. This is not good, not good at for RIMM.

  • Tommy G.

    Wait a second. The flagship BlackBerry Bold is nothing to write home about but the second banana Thunder and Kickstart aimed at the consumer market will be “revolutionary”? Please. I am a huge BlackBerry fan, Apple OWNS the touchscreen market with more than a hundred patents. Now we have an alleged “financial analyst” pushing a “buy” on BlackBerry, which has pegged its hopes on a “superior” physical keyboard, even though he and other analysts have reported less than satisfactory quality with the Bold’s squishy keys, 3G reception and slower browser speeds?

    Worst of all, this analyst is looking to the consumer side to right RIMM after acknowledging that the Bold’s shortcoming’s and high price plan will make it tougher for businesses–it’s core market–to quickly adopt en masse?

    Get me an iPhone–and another analyst.

    I dumped my RIMM shares this morning. RIMM is about to have a product rollout in the U.S. that will make Apple’s look relatively smooth. This is not good, not good at for RIMM.

  • Tommy G.

    Wait a second. The flagship BlackBerry Bold is nothing to write home about but the second banana Thunder and Kickstart aimed at the consumer market will be “revolutionary”? Please. I am a huge BlackBerry fan, Apple OWNS the touchscreen market with more than a hundred patents. Now we have an alleged “financial analyst” pushing a “buy” on BlackBerry, which has pegged its hopes on a “superior” physical keyboard, even though he and other analysts have reported less than satisfactory quality with the Bold’s squishy keys, 3G reception and slower browser speeds?

    Worst of all, this analyst is looking to the consumer side to right RIMM after acknowledging that the Bold’s shortcoming’s and high price plan will make it tougher for businesses–it’s core market–to quickly adopt en masse?

    Get me an iPhone–and another analyst.

    I dumped my RIMM shares this morning. RIMM is about to have a product rollout in the U.S. that will make Apple’s look relatively smooth. This is not good, not good at for RIMM.

  • Andrew

    All this talk about Bold, Kickstart, and Thunder has only confused me and caused me to delay mt desire to get a Bold. I saw an iPhone recently and want one if only for the Browser/Screen. The virtual keyboard is a non-starter. Besides, not ready for primetime 3G is another non-starter. I think I’ll hang on to my 8800 for awhile yet.

  • Andrew

    All this talk about Bold, Kickstart, and Thunder has only confused me and caused me to delay mt desire to get a Bold. I saw an iPhone recently and want one if only for the Browser/Screen. The virtual keyboard is a non-starter. Besides, not ready for primetime 3G is another non-starter. I think I’ll hang on to my 8800 for awhile yet.

  • Tommy G.

    Andrew makes a good point: by throwing so many form factors at the market at once–Bold, Thunder, Kickstart–RIM confuses the marketplace and smells desperate. Worse, the Bold suffers as RIM saves features like better cameras for the other devices. You don’t see Apple doing that–there’s only one iPhone. RIM should be making a Bold with a physical keyboard, screen and browser speeds that flat-out beatst the iPhone and stop deluting their brand. I’m typing this on my iPhone and wish the Bold had delivered more than did to keep me with BlackBerry. Like most, I have zero interest in a touchscreen or clamshell from RIM.

  • Tommy G.

    Andrew makes a good point: by throwing so many form factors at the market at once–Bold, Thunder, Kickstart–RIM confuses the marketplace and smells desperate. Worse, the Bold suffers as RIM saves features like better cameras for the other devices. You don’t see Apple doing that–there’s only one iPhone. RIM should be making a Bold with a physical keyboard, screen and browser speeds that flat-out beatst the iPhone and stop deluting their brand. I’m typing this on my iPhone and wish the Bold had delivered more than did to keep me with BlackBerry. Like most, I have zero interest in a touchscreen or clamshell from RIM.