“Storm vs. iPhone: which will win?” (Weekly Contest)

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The BlackBerry Storm has finally arrived!… In the United Kingdom, at least, with Vodafone shipping pre-ordered BlackBerrys today. Verizon’s November 21st announcement puts the Storm front just one week away from North American shores.

So it is now time to decide how the BlackBerry Storm, RIM/Verizon’s Apple/AT&T killer, will fare this coming holiday season. We know about RIM’s current market position and how much they need this device to succeed; we’ve heard the criticisms of Verizon’s pricing scheme. Now it’s time for YOU to weigh in.

Because the stakes are so high (and because we haven’t done a Weekly Contest in a while), we’re raising the stakes ourselves: giving away TEN FREE COPIES OF PEEKAWHO, a piece of software no BlackBerry user should be without. We’ll give away 8 copies to the first 8 posters (with relevant and insightful comments) and save the last two for the two best comments. What are you waiting for?

LAST WEEK’S WEEKLY CONTEST WINNER was Jim, who was thankful that his BlackBerry had saved his marriage. Enjoy your OtterBox Defender case!

  • http://myspace.com/xskitzo2010x xskitzo2010x

    I think in the end, the phone that wins out will be the one that the application companies back the most, if they make awesome iphone apps, but leave the storm lacking, then the iphone will be more popular, this kind of concept already was applied to the blu ray vs. HDDVD war, with the most backed format coming out on top. I don’t think that either phone will be eliminated like in the format wars, but it is a good concept to think of.

  • Wifiguy

    The iPhone is the winner. They are the innovator and Rimm is the copycat. The Storm will sell alot of units but folks will not be waiting in lines for hours like the Apple faithful do.

  • Wifiguy

    The iPhone is the winner. They are the innovator and Rimm is the copycat. The Storm will sell alot of units but folks will not be waiting in lines for hours like the Apple faithful do.

  • Ian Collins

    The Storm will emerge victorious. The reason being is that it very useful in both business and play. The Iphone was not constructed to be a great business tool. It is hard to fathom that Iphone would come out on top. It is a phone with an mp3 player,first, and a quasi smartphone next. I mean quasi because non smart phones have internet access as well as e-mail. The Storm is a business device first, and a device to entertain next. BlackBerry is known for its securtiy. The Iphone has already shown security problems. Blackberry has always been the standard, and will continue to be so.

  • Ian Collins

    The Storm will emerge victorious. The reason being is that it very useful in both business and play. The Iphone was not constructed to be a great business tool. It is hard to fathom that Iphone would come out on top. It is a phone with an mp3 player,first, and a quasi smartphone next. I mean quasi because non smart phones have internet access as well as e-mail. The Storm is a business device first, and a device to entertain next. BlackBerry is known for its securtiy. The Iphone has already shown security problems. Blackberry has always been the standard, and will continue to be so.

  • gixxerjoe

    One of the best iphone storm compairsons I have seen was put together by a member of pinstack named skelzer. (Sorry mods not trying to adveritse another site just trying to give credit to the person who took the time to compile it) It is mainly a list of what the storm can do vs. what the iphone cannot. But here it is.

    “Storm vs iPhone
    (aka: Storm DOES have, iPhone DOES NOT have)
    :- 3D click-through screen (capacitive touch PLUS tactile click)- MMS (TXT messages with pictures attached)
    - ability to record videos- WMV video support
    - WMA audio support- 3GPP RTSP website audio/video streaming- copy/paste via multitouch- better camera (3.2mp vs 2mp = 60% improvement)
    - 2x digital camera zoom (vs none)- camera flash- camera autofocus & image stabilization- better screen resolution (480×360 vs 480×320 = 12% improvement)
    - full QWERTY keyboard (PLUS SureType)- second mic for active noise cancellation during phone calls
    - removable/replaceable battery- better battery life w/ 1400 mAhr (5.5-6.0hrs vs 5.0hrs = 10-20% improvement)
    - replaceable metal backing (vs plastic, non-replaceable)
    - MicroSD memory card expandable up to 32GB
    - 10x hard buttons (4 front, 2 top, 4 side)
    - voice-command dialing
    - global phone: CDMA/EVDO.A/UMTS/HSPA/EDGE/GPRS/GSM (works on VZW and includes a SIM card for travel abroad)
    - true, lean email push w/ compression (vs battery draining ping-pong workaround)
    - DOD-level encryption and security (with remote management via BES or Unite)
    - syncronize contacts, tasks, memos, calendar with Yahoo! PIM, Outlook, Lotus Notes, etc- save attachments & send attachments from media card or internal memory
    - open PDF, DOC, XLS, PPT files- invite attendees to calendar meetings
    - ability to use any music manager (vs iTunes-only restriction)
    - high-speed PC modem via USB tethering
    - third-party application multitasking (aka background applications)
    - Assisted GPS for turn-by-turn voice navigation with third-party applications
    - mass storage mode (allows drag/drop of files via Windows Explorer)
    - BlueTooth 2.0 with stereo headset, A2DP/AVRCP audio streaming, file-sharing, wireless printing, etc- horizontal charging dock for “clock mode” and movie viewing
    - better Verizon contracts and cheaper price plans
    - better 3G network (Verizon EVDO Rev. A vs AT&T HSDPA scarce coverage and slower uploads)
    - open architecture app install (vs Apple collecting a buck for EVERYTHING you buy)
    On AT&T, spotty 3G coverage requires the WiFi alternative…VZW 3G coverage is everywhere, hence no need to compensate with an additional chip that would raise prices and reduce battery life.
    iPhone, game over.”

    I have to agree with him game is pretty over when looked at in this perspective.
    Now apple has been 2nd to none in making a truly great device and being the first to do it. My hat is off to them…. On the other hand RIM has pulled their head out of the sand and reconized that bussiness users are normal people too. They want a device that can incorparate their personal needs into one device. You can work or play. In doing so you will attract an entirely new market THE YOUTH OF AMERICA! RIM has been testing the waters with this with the launch of the pearl, curve, bold, ect… Look how RIM advertising has shifted. They have done a pretty good job of starting to penatrait this market. So my conclusion is RIM wins becouse they have built a better more capable device. Will it out sell the iphone alone. We will see.

    It links are alowed I will post back to skelzers origanal write up.

    Cheers- gix

  • gixxerjoe

    One of the best iphone storm compairsons I have seen was put together by a member of pinstack named skelzer. (Sorry mods not trying to adveritse another site just trying to give credit to the person who took the time to compile it) It is mainly a list of what the storm can do vs. what the iphone cannot. But here it is.

    “Storm vs iPhone
    (aka: Storm DOES have, iPhone DOES NOT have)
    :- 3D click-through screen (capacitive touch PLUS tactile click)- MMS (TXT messages with pictures attached)
    - ability to record videos- WMV video support
    - WMA audio support- 3GPP RTSP website audio/video streaming- copy/paste via multitouch- better camera (3.2mp vs 2mp = 60% improvement)
    - 2x digital camera zoom (vs none)- camera flash- camera autofocus & image stabilization- better screen resolution (480×360 vs 480×320 = 12% improvement)
    - full QWERTY keyboard (PLUS SureType)- second mic for active noise cancellation during phone calls
    - removable/replaceable battery- better battery life w/ 1400 mAhr (5.5-6.0hrs vs 5.0hrs = 10-20% improvement)
    - replaceable metal backing (vs plastic, non-replaceable)
    - MicroSD memory card expandable up to 32GB
    - 10x hard buttons (4 front, 2 top, 4 side)
    - voice-command dialing
    - global phone: CDMA/EVDO.A/UMTS/HSPA/EDGE/GPRS/GSM (works on VZW and includes a SIM card for travel abroad)
    - true, lean email push w/ compression (vs battery draining ping-pong workaround)
    - DOD-level encryption and security (with remote management via BES or Unite)
    - syncronize contacts, tasks, memos, calendar with Yahoo! PIM, Outlook, Lotus Notes, etc- save attachments & send attachments from media card or internal memory
    - open PDF, DOC, XLS, PPT files- invite attendees to calendar meetings
    - ability to use any music manager (vs iTunes-only restriction)
    - high-speed PC modem via USB tethering
    - third-party application multitasking (aka background applications)
    - Assisted GPS for turn-by-turn voice navigation with third-party applications
    - mass storage mode (allows drag/drop of files via Windows Explorer)
    - BlueTooth 2.0 with stereo headset, A2DP/AVRCP audio streaming, file-sharing, wireless printing, etc- horizontal charging dock for “clock mode” and movie viewing
    - better Verizon contracts and cheaper price plans
    - better 3G network (Verizon EVDO Rev. A vs AT&T HSDPA scarce coverage and slower uploads)
    - open architecture app install (vs Apple collecting a buck for EVERYTHING you buy)
    On AT&T, spotty 3G coverage requires the WiFi alternative…VZW 3G coverage is everywhere, hence no need to compensate with an additional chip that would raise prices and reduce battery life.
    iPhone, game over.”

    I have to agree with him game is pretty over when looked at in this perspective.
    Now apple has been 2nd to none in making a truly great device and being the first to do it. My hat is off to them…. On the other hand RIM has pulled their head out of the sand and reconized that bussiness users are normal people too. They want a device that can incorparate their personal needs into one device. You can work or play. In doing so you will attract an entirely new market THE YOUTH OF AMERICA! RIM has been testing the waters with this with the launch of the pearl, curve, bold, ect… Look how RIM advertising has shifted. They have done a pretty good job of starting to penatrait this market. So my conclusion is RIM wins becouse they have built a better more capable device. Will it out sell the iphone alone. We will see.

    It links are alowed I will post back to skelzers origanal write up.

    Cheers- gix

  • Skweez

    I am somewhat of a tech junkie. I like gadgets and have had the opportunity to have had most of the hottest cell phones on the market. With that said, I’d like to give a little insight to the iPhone vs Storm debate….

    iPHONE….

    I currently own an LG Voyager with no data plan. I do NOT open the browser. I do NOT use VZ navigator. I simply use this device to make and receive calls as well as text message. Let me explain how I got to this place. My wife bought me an iPhone as an anniversary present (true tech junkie) when they first hit the market. At the time I was with Sprint and had a Treo 700. I was only a year into my new contract, but figured the iPhone was worth an extra $175 on top of the $600 for the phone. I had never owned an Apple product, so I wasn’t some Steve Jobs loyalist. I have to say, the iPhone was the BEST phone i had ever owned. It was reminiscient of owning my first Star Tac (yes, I’m old school). I loved the look, feel, and function. Great pics, directions (i have no sense of direction), google maps (no need to dial 411) and of course, that beautiful multi touch screen. So, if I loved this phone so much, why don’t I still own it? Well, here’s point number one in the iPhone vs Storm debate: CARRIER. Yes, it IS that important. Now, you’re going to have crappy connections and dropped call with all carriers, however, AT&T certainly has some work to do. Second point, that SLOOOOOW Edge network. I know, I know, there’s the iPhone 3G. This brings me too what I like to call, the GOTCHA factor. As a tech junkie, I decided to get the new iPhone 3G. So, I go to the store and they tell me that I HAVE to sign up for a new two year contract. I’m thinking, that can’t be correct, but alas, it was. No matter what the price of the new iPhone, there would be no way for me to pay for it flat out without rolling back to a new 2 year contract. GOTCHA!! I quickly declined, and sold my iPhone on Ebay. Took the proceeds and went with The Network. However, after using such a joyous piece of electronics that the iPhone was, and that top notch surfing experience, I was loathed to use any other browser. I was determined to wait until someone produced a phone that would make me WANT to use all of its features. At this point, it seemed the HTC Touch Pro would be the phone I was waiting for…….

    BLACKBERRY….

    I was assigned new duties at the job and was given a Blackberry Pearl. I had never used a Blackberry due to the impression of it being a “business” phone. Well, was I PLEASANTLY surprised. Although I am not a fan of SureType, the ability to receive instant email and the fluidness of a scroll wheel I was hooked. I almost didn’t mind that it didn’t have a touch screen. So, now i’m looking to see if there’s a touch screen blackberry. Of course there has to be. Everyone else has a touch screen. NO NO NO. There was not a touchscreen blackberry on the market. I was sooooo disappointed. But then my sorrow turned into pure jubliation as I trolled the net and heard about the Blackberry Thunder!! Imagine, the ability and response of a blackberry, with a screen as beautiful as an iPhone, I was in tech junkie heaven!!! I paid closer attention to the bits and pieces of information about the Thunder, than the Presedential election!….

    SUMMARY….

    The Blackberry Storm is going to win from the standpoint of RIM. They are looking for a device that will bring in the throngs of consumer users, and this is it. On the other hand, there is no better marketer than Steve Jobs in this digital age and therefore the Apple iPhone will win in having a healthy share of the business user market. Because I have not had the opportunity to spend any hands-on time with the Storm, I’ll have to withhold my final verdict until I do.

  • Skweez

    I am somewhat of a tech junkie. I like gadgets and have had the opportunity to have had most of the hottest cell phones on the market. With that said, I’d like to give a little insight to the iPhone vs Storm debate….

    iPHONE….

    I currently own an LG Voyager with no data plan. I do NOT open the browser. I do NOT use VZ navigator. I simply use this device to make and receive calls as well as text message. Let me explain how I got to this place. My wife bought me an iPhone as an anniversary present (true tech junkie) when they first hit the market. At the time I was with Sprint and had a Treo 700. I was only a year into my new contract, but figured the iPhone was worth an extra $175 on top of the $600 for the phone. I had never owned an Apple product, so I wasn’t some Steve Jobs loyalist. I have to say, the iPhone was the BEST phone i had ever owned. It was reminiscient of owning my first Star Tac (yes, I’m old school). I loved the look, feel, and function. Great pics, directions (i have no sense of direction), google maps (no need to dial 411) and of course, that beautiful multi touch screen. So, if I loved this phone so much, why don’t I still own it? Well, here’s point number one in the iPhone vs Storm debate: CARRIER. Yes, it IS that important. Now, you’re going to have crappy connections and dropped call with all carriers, however, AT&T certainly has some work to do. Second point, that SLOOOOOW Edge network. I know, I know, there’s the iPhone 3G. This brings me too what I like to call, the GOTCHA factor. As a tech junkie, I decided to get the new iPhone 3G. So, I go to the store and they tell me that I HAVE to sign up for a new two year contract. I’m thinking, that can’t be correct, but alas, it was. No matter what the price of the new iPhone, there would be no way for me to pay for it flat out without rolling back to a new 2 year contract. GOTCHA!! I quickly declined, and sold my iPhone on Ebay. Took the proceeds and went with The Network. However, after using such a joyous piece of electronics that the iPhone was, and that top notch surfing experience, I was loathed to use any other browser. I was determined to wait until someone produced a phone that would make me WANT to use all of its features. At this point, it seemed the HTC Touch Pro would be the phone I was waiting for…….

    BLACKBERRY….

    I was assigned new duties at the job and was given a Blackberry Pearl. I had never used a Blackberry due to the impression of it being a “business” phone. Well, was I PLEASANTLY surprised. Although I am not a fan of SureType, the ability to receive instant email and the fluidness of a scroll wheel I was hooked. I almost didn’t mind that it didn’t have a touch screen. So, now i’m looking to see if there’s a touch screen blackberry. Of course there has to be. Everyone else has a touch screen. NO NO NO. There was not a touchscreen blackberry on the market. I was sooooo disappointed. But then my sorrow turned into pure jubliation as I trolled the net and heard about the Blackberry Thunder!! Imagine, the ability and response of a blackberry, with a screen as beautiful as an iPhone, I was in tech junkie heaven!!! I paid closer attention to the bits and pieces of information about the Thunder, than the Presedential election!….

    SUMMARY….

    The Blackberry Storm is going to win from the standpoint of RIM. They are looking for a device that will bring in the throngs of consumer users, and this is it. On the other hand, there is no better marketer than Steve Jobs in this digital age and therefore the Apple iPhone will win in having a healthy share of the business user market. Because I have not had the opportunity to spend any hands-on time with the Storm, I’ll have to withhold my final verdict until I do.

  • Chris Rea

    I got one word for this battle……crippled! Who is and who isn’t.

    The network and quality of service will always play a role in who is victorious. Hey, the iPhone is all glitz and glam…. BB is all meat and muscle. Period. A product is only as good as the expectations.

    Someone should tell Apple and AT&T!

    Need I say more? Didn’t think so! Hit me back after the jump off.

  • Chris Rea

    I got one word for this battle……crippled! Who is and who isn’t.

    The network and quality of service will always play a role in who is victorious. Hey, the iPhone is all glitz and glam…. BB is all meat and muscle. Period. A product is only as good as the expectations.

    Someone should tell Apple and AT&T!

    Need I say more? Didn’t think so! Hit me back after the jump off.

  • yoyobo

    iPhone will win this battle, its a well marketed product with the benefits of looking good, app store, internet friendly with page rendering and speed. It is still a consumer market out there and as much as we love an iPhone killer, it only just builds up there reputation as being the best consumer product out there. The Storm is marketed for consumers and until we see a proven web browser experience and the launch of an app store; the ideas of push email and better security are not a high priority for them. (eg. cut and paste, such a simple thing to leave out but it hasn’t stopped people from buying them.)

  • yoyobo

    iPhone will win this battle, its a well marketed product with the benefits of looking good, app store, internet friendly with page rendering and speed. It is still a consumer market out there and as much as we love an iPhone killer, it only just builds up there reputation as being the best consumer product out there. The Storm is marketed for consumers and until we see a proven web browser experience and the launch of an app store; the ideas of push email and better security are not a high priority for them. (eg. cut and paste, such a simple thing to leave out but it hasn’t stopped people from buying them.)

  • http://www.tech-ftw.net/ Techftw

    iPhone – Good

    * Wi-FI
    * Endless Applications – All applications located in a central place (this is something that rim and verizon might do well also)
    * Software based
    * Great syncing with a MAC
    * Great ipod media function
    * Full qwerty keyboard in landscape and normal view.
    * Application support for Full Social networking (pretty much any site you use has a application to access it and any messenger service has a application to use it)
    * VNC – Application to remote control Computers VNC
    * Full Computer networking suite application’s Including things like Ping, Traceroute, Password generators, Bandwidth testers etc etc.
    * Excelent picture sorting and syncing.
    * Data – Plan is really cheap. (being matched by verizon)
    * Multi-Touch Screen.
    * Can play and store any song from your iTunes library.

    iPhone – Not so Good

    * Data on edge and 3g is pretty slow.
    * Email lacks alot of basic functions (like marking more then one message at a time as “read”)
    * You cant legally customize your theme.
    * You can’t do data and voice at the same time.
    * Applications have to close before you can move onto something else (so if your logged into instant messenger and you get a phone call your logged out of the messenger)
    * When you have more then one email account on the phone the badge icons on the mail can really add up fast and you can’t mark more then one message at a time as read so it can be a slow process.
    * You can’t replace the battery on your own. Your forced to go through Apple.
    * No video recording.
    * No flash support Yet in the browser.

    Storm – Good

    * Email will be great – this is a blackberry so I would think that the email is going to crush the iPhones email. (you get true push email from any email acount that supports IMAP or POP. Basically what this means is your phone will not have to fetch email or go get the email. Email will come in like a sms text message just appears on your phone. Good by to ever needing a text message plan.)
    * The network data is going to more then likely be faster.
    * The phone can be tilted in any direction for viewing. (correction it has 3 orientations)
    * Higher quality picture on screen.
    * You can replace your own battery.
    * Expandable external memory. (up to 16gb + you can have additional cards)
    * Video recording capable.
    * Higher MP camera.
    * Data and voice at the same time.
    * Security – Blackberrys are known for there security of data.

    Storm – Not so Good
    * Full qwerty keyboard only in landscape view.
    * Less applications in a central location. (this will only be a problem early on)
    * The phone is mostly hardware based. (meaning a firmware upgrade cant change how the phone works completely it can change and fix functionality but only to a certain degree) (I see the main problem is being only 1 gig of internal storage when things move to a memory card there is less things you can do with it)
    * Blackberrys are typically known for there (business purposes) (this has changed from what I have seen this phone has a possibility of having alot of fun factors)
    * NO WI-FI WHAT THE HELL!
    * Can only sync songs from iTunes that do not have DRM.

    Further saying I am changing to the storm because of the reliable push email service that rim provides even on BIS it exceeds the current email service that the iPhone offers to standard non business users.

    I truly believe the choice will be preference based some people will buy the storm because its new and some people will bu it for legitimate reasons. Some people will hate that the entire screen is a button and some will love it.

    I don’t think the phone has nearly the hype as the iPhone did when it launched however that doesn’t mean that the hype wont grow insanely in the coming months.

    I can remember when the iPhone came out there was hardly a person that didn’t know about it and with the storm this isn’t the case. (this isn’t do to the product itself I believe this also has to do with current economy issues)

    Anyway I would really like to win a key to that software seeing as this is my first blackberry I will get however If I don’t win its cool hopefully this info will help someone

    ALSO BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION GO TRY IT NOONE SHOULD MAKE YOUR MIND FOR YOU TRY IT YOURSELF TO MAKE SURE =)

  • http://www.tech-ftw.net/ Techftw

    iPhone – Good

    * Wi-FI
    * Endless Applications – All applications located in a central place (this is something that rim and verizon might do well also)
    * Software based
    * Great syncing with a MAC
    * Great ipod media function
    * Full qwerty keyboard in landscape and normal view.
    * Application support for Full Social networking (pretty much any site you use has a application to access it and any messenger service has a application to use it)
    * VNC – Application to remote control Computers VNC
    * Full Computer networking suite application’s Including things like Ping, Traceroute, Password generators, Bandwidth testers etc etc.
    * Excelent picture sorting and syncing.
    * Data – Plan is really cheap. (being matched by verizon)
    * Multi-Touch Screen.
    * Can play and store any song from your iTunes library.

    iPhone – Not so Good

    * Data on edge and 3g is pretty slow.
    * Email lacks alot of basic functions (like marking more then one message at a time as “read”)
    * You cant legally customize your theme.
    * You can’t do data and voice at the same time.
    * Applications have to close before you can move onto something else (so if your logged into instant messenger and you get a phone call your logged out of the messenger)
    * When you have more then one email account on the phone the badge icons on the mail can really add up fast and you can’t mark more then one message at a time as read so it can be a slow process.
    * You can’t replace the battery on your own. Your forced to go through Apple.
    * No video recording.
    * No flash support Yet in the browser.

    Storm – Good

    * Email will be great – this is a blackberry so I would think that the email is going to crush the iPhones email. (you get true push email from any email acount that supports IMAP or POP. Basically what this means is your phone will not have to fetch email or go get the email. Email will come in like a sms text message just appears on your phone. Good by to ever needing a text message plan.)
    * The network data is going to more then likely be faster.
    * The phone can be tilted in any direction for viewing. (correction it has 3 orientations)
    * Higher quality picture on screen.
    * You can replace your own battery.
    * Expandable external memory. (up to 16gb + you can have additional cards)
    * Video recording capable.
    * Higher MP camera.
    * Data and voice at the same time.
    * Security – Blackberrys are known for there security of data.

    Storm – Not so Good
    * Full qwerty keyboard only in landscape view.
    * Less applications in a central location. (this will only be a problem early on)
    * The phone is mostly hardware based. (meaning a firmware upgrade cant change how the phone works completely it can change and fix functionality but only to a certain degree) (I see the main problem is being only 1 gig of internal storage when things move to a memory card there is less things you can do with it)
    * Blackberrys are typically known for there (business purposes) (this has changed from what I have seen this phone has a possibility of having alot of fun factors)
    * NO WI-FI WHAT THE HELL!
    * Can only sync songs from iTunes that do not have DRM.

    Further saying I am changing to the storm because of the reliable push email service that rim provides even on BIS it exceeds the current email service that the iPhone offers to standard non business users.

    I truly believe the choice will be preference based some people will buy the storm because its new and some people will bu it for legitimate reasons. Some people will hate that the entire screen is a button and some will love it.

    I don’t think the phone has nearly the hype as the iPhone did when it launched however that doesn’t mean that the hype wont grow insanely in the coming months.

    I can remember when the iPhone came out there was hardly a person that didn’t know about it and with the storm this isn’t the case. (this isn’t do to the product itself I believe this also has to do with current economy issues)

    Anyway I would really like to win a key to that software seeing as this is my first blackberry I will get however If I don’t win its cool hopefully this info will help someone

    ALSO BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION GO TRY IT NOONE SHOULD MAKE YOUR MIND FOR YOU TRY IT YOURSELF TO MAKE SURE =)

  • http://www.tech-ftw.net/ Techftw

    iPhone – Good

    * Wi-FI
    * Endless Applications – All applications located in a central place (this is something that rim and verizon might do well also)
    * Software based
    * Great syncing with a MAC
    * Great ipod media function
    * Full qwerty keyboard in landscape and normal view.
    * Application support for Full Social networking (pretty much any site you use has a application to access it and any messenger service has a application to use it)
    * VNC – Application to remote control Computers VNC
    * Full Computer networking suite application’s Including things like Ping, Traceroute, Password generators, Bandwidth testers etc etc.
    * Excelent picture sorting and syncing.
    * Data – Plan is really cheap. (being matched by verizon)
    * Multi-Touch Screen.
    * Can play and store any song from your iTunes library.

    iPhone – Not so Good

    * Data on edge and 3g is pretty slow.
    * Email lacks alot of basic functions (like marking more then one message at a time as “read”)
    * You cant legally customize your theme.
    * You can’t do data and voice at the same time.
    * Applications have to close before you can move onto something else (so if your logged into instant messenger and you get a phone call your logged out of the messenger)
    * When you have more then one email account on the phone the badge icons on the mail can really add up fast and you can’t mark more then one message at a time as read so it can be a slow process.
    * You can’t replace the battery on your own. Your forced to go through Apple.
    * No video recording.
    * No flash support Yet in the browser.

    Storm – Good

    * Email will be great – this is a blackberry so I would think that the email is going to crush the iPhones email. (you get true push email from any email acount that supports IMAP or POP. Basically what this means is your phone will not have to fetch email or go get the email. Email will come in like a sms text message just appears on your phone. Good by to ever needing a text message plan.)
    * The network data is going to more then likely be faster.
    * The phone can be tilted in any direction for viewing. (correction it has 3 orientations)
    * Higher quality picture on screen.
    * You can replace your own battery.
    * Expandable external memory. (up to 16gb + you can have additional cards)
    * Video recording capable.
    * Higher MP camera.
    * Data and voice at the same time.
    * Security – Blackberrys are known for there security of data.

    Storm – Not so Good
    * Full qwerty keyboard only in landscape view.
    * Less applications in a central location. (this will only be a problem early on)
    * The phone is mostly hardware based. (meaning a firmware upgrade cant change how the phone works completely it can change and fix functionality but only to a certain degree) (I see the main problem is being only 1 gig of internal storage when things move to a memory card there is less things you can do with it)
    * Blackberrys are typically known for there (business purposes) (this has changed from what I have seen this phone has a possibility of having alot of fun factors)
    * NO WI-FI WHAT THE HELL!
    * Can only sync songs from iTunes that do not have DRM.

    Further saying I am changing to the storm because of the reliable push email service that rim provides even on BIS it exceeds the current email service that the iPhone offers to standard non business users.

    I truly believe the choice will be preference based some people will buy the storm because its new and some people will bu it for legitimate reasons. Some people will hate that the entire screen is a button and some will love it.

    I don’t think the phone has nearly the hype as the iPhone did when it launched however that doesn’t mean that the hype wont grow insanely in the coming months.

    I can remember when the iPhone came out there was hardly a person that didn’t know about it and with the storm this isn’t the case. (this isn’t do to the product itself I believe this also has to do with current economy issues)

    Anyway I would really like to win a key to that software seeing as this is my first blackberry I will get however If I don’t win its cool hopefully this info will help someone

    ALSO BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION GO TRY IT NOONE SHOULD MAKE YOUR MIND FOR YOU TRY IT YOURSELF TO MAKE SURE =)

  • http://www.tech-ftw.net Techftw

    iPhone – Good

    * Wi-FI
    * Endless Applications – All applications located in a central place (this is something that rim and verizon might do well also)
    * Software based
    * Great syncing with a MAC
    * Great ipod media function
    * Full qwerty keyboard in landscape and normal view.
    * Application support for Full Social networking (pretty much any site you use has a application to access it and any messenger service has a application to use it)
    * VNC – Application to remote control Computers VNC
    * Full Computer networking suite application’s Including things like Ping, Traceroute, Password generators, Bandwidth testers etc etc.
    * Excelent picture sorting and syncing.
    * Data – Plan is really cheap. (being matched by verizon)
    * Multi-Touch Screen.
    * Can play and store any song from your iTunes library.

    iPhone – Not so Good

    * Data on edge and 3g is pretty slow.
    * Email lacks alot of basic functions (like marking more then one message at a time as “read”)
    * You cant legally customize your theme.
    * You can’t do data and voice at the same time.
    * Applications have to close before you can move onto something else (so if your logged into instant messenger and you get a phone call your logged out of the messenger)
    * When you have more then one email account on the phone the badge icons on the mail can really add up fast and you can’t mark more then one message at a time as read so it can be a slow process.
    * You can’t replace the battery on your own. Your forced to go through Apple.
    * No video recording.
    * No flash support Yet in the browser.

    Storm – Good

    * Email will be great – this is a blackberry so I would think that the email is going to crush the iPhones email. (you get true push email from any email acount that supports IMAP or POP. Basically what this means is your phone will not have to fetch email or go get the email. Email will come in like a sms text message just appears on your phone. Good by to ever needing a text message plan.)
    * The network data is going to more then likely be faster.
    * The phone can be tilted in any direction for viewing. (correction it has 3 orientations)
    * Higher quality picture on screen.
    * You can replace your own battery.
    * Expandable external memory. (up to 16gb + you can have additional cards)
    * Video recording capable.
    * Higher MP camera.
    * Data and voice at the same time.
    * Security – Blackberrys are known for there security of data.

    Storm – Not so Good
    * Full qwerty keyboard only in landscape view.
    * Less applications in a central location. (this will only be a problem early on)
    * The phone is mostly hardware based. (meaning a firmware upgrade cant change how the phone works completely it can change and fix functionality but only to a certain degree) (I see the main problem is being only 1 gig of internal storage when things move to a memory card there is less things you can do with it)
    * Blackberrys are typically known for there (business purposes) (this has changed from what I have seen this phone has a possibility of having alot of fun factors)
    * NO WI-FI WHAT THE HELL!
    * Can only sync songs from iTunes that do not have DRM.

    Further saying I am changing to the storm because of the reliable push email service that rim provides even on BIS it exceeds the current email service that the iPhone offers to standard non business users.

    I truly believe the choice will be preference based some people will buy the storm because its new and some people will bu it for legitimate reasons. Some people will hate that the entire screen is a button and some will love it.

    I don’t think the phone has nearly the hype as the iPhone did when it launched however that doesn’t mean that the hype wont grow insanely in the coming months.

    I can remember when the iPhone came out there was hardly a person that didn’t know about it and with the storm this isn’t the case. (this isn’t do to the product itself I believe this also has to do with current economy issues)

    Anyway I would really like to win a key to that software seeing as this is my first blackberry I will get however If I don’t win its cool hopefully this info will help someone

    ALSO BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION GO TRY IT NOONE SHOULD MAKE YOUR MIND FOR YOU TRY IT YOURSELF TO MAKE SURE =)

  • toe

    Some of those comments are begging for the promotion.

    Blackberries are classier. Iphone users in the business world flaunt themselves in a way that says, I’m just here to play with my phone and mess around.

    Blackberry users still play, but at least we do it with class.

    Blackberry has a good name not even our beloved Apple can topple.

  • toe

    Some of those comments are begging for the promotion.

    Blackberries are classier. Iphone users in the business world flaunt themselves in a way that says, I’m just here to play with my phone and mess around.

    Blackberry users still play, but at least we do it with class.

    Blackberry has a good name not even our beloved Apple can topple.

  • seth

    THe Storm will win because it should have more of a mass appeal. As pretty as the IPHONE is, it is not a business phone; the blackberry is. Furthermore, the iphone, even with the app store still generally appeals to the casual user. THe Storm has nearly everything the iphone does and more. Although, we will have to wait a little while to see how applications stack up.

  • seth

    THe Storm will win because it should have more of a mass appeal. As pretty as the IPHONE is, it is not a business phone; the blackberry is. Furthermore, the iphone, even with the app store still generally appeals to the casual user. THe Storm has nearly everything the iphone does and more. Although, we will have to wait a little while to see how applications stack up.

  • _yc_

    The iPhone has already won and the Storm is not enough to catch up.

    The user interface in the iPhone is the best and will get better.
    The iPhone is feature rich with all the Apps available at the Apple AppStore.
    The usability and aesthetics on the iPhone are the best. Usability and consistency are most important to users.

    For example: If you remove everything in the iPhone except the Phone/Contact application, it will still be revolutionary because of the user interface. The way you set up conference calls, the way you merge calls or swap the keypad, the way you put a call on hold or mute, the ergonomic placement of the buttons is simply amazing.

    I predict that RIMM will soon port its push-email platform to Apple’s iPhone.
    As a native application on the iPhone, it will perform better than the current Java base environment.

    Time will tell.

  • _yc_

    The iPhone has already won and the Storm is not enough to catch up.

    The user interface in the iPhone is the best and will get better.
    The iPhone is feature rich with all the Apps available at the Apple AppStore.
    The usability and aesthetics on the iPhone are the best. Usability and consistency are most important to users.

    For example: If you remove everything in the iPhone except the Phone/Contact application, it will still be revolutionary because of the user interface. The way you set up conference calls, the way you merge calls or swap the keypad, the way you put a call on hold or mute, the ergonomic placement of the buttons is simply amazing.

    I predict that RIMM will soon port its push-email platform to Apple’s iPhone.
    As a native application on the iPhone, it will perform better than the current Java base environment.

    Time will tell.

  • Marcus

    I can’t wait til next Friday so that I can get my Storm. I have read so many blogs and it appears that the Storm is definitely the best out there for my needs. I currently have a Moto Q and definitely want to stay with Verizon.

  • Marcus

    I can’t wait til next Friday so that I can get my Storm. I have read so many blogs and it appears that the Storm is definitely the best out there for my needs. I currently have a Moto Q and definitely want to stay with Verizon.

  • PLindsey

    See when it comes to the Apple iPhone and the Blackberry Storm, both are amazing, but heres the thing, Apple, really can’t do anything wrong and is just plain out amazing, kinda like a platypus on steroids, although, where they went wrong was not offering the iPhone to Verizon Wireless, dummies what were they thinking, the largest network not having the best phone, idiots if you ask me, which is why i think the storm will prevail. Now a quick background but i am a devote mac person, everything i own is apple, and yes even my underwear are marked! but I’m with Verizon and won’t deal with at&t’s price for the iPhone and i will be getting the storm as soon as i can get my hands on one because the storm offers a few things that the iphone doesn’t, oh ya and because its not stuck on a stupid network!! but I do hope to see apple get smart here soon and drop their at&t contract!!

  • PLindsey

    See when it comes to the Apple iPhone and the Blackberry Storm, both are amazing, but heres the thing, Apple, really can’t do anything wrong and is just plain out amazing, kinda like a platypus on steroids, although, where they went wrong was not offering the iPhone to Verizon Wireless, dummies what were they thinking, the largest network not having the best phone, idiots if you ask me, which is why i think the storm will prevail. Now a quick background but i am a devote mac person, everything i own is apple, and yes even my underwear are marked! but I’m with Verizon and won’t deal with at&t’s price for the iPhone and i will be getting the storm as soon as i can get my hands on one because the storm offers a few things that the iphone doesn’t, oh ya and because its not stuck on a stupid network!! but I do hope to see apple get smart here soon and drop their at&t contract!!

  • MobileAdmin

    If you want to guage this strictly # of devices sold I would have to say Apple will get that. The itunes ecosystem is very tight. Apple is less a computer company then a media company. I’m sure if Jobs could find a way to put out the iPhone without having to use a carrier network he would.

    RIM the past 2-3 years has been trickling out consumer friendly devices to gain brand recognition. Apple wins this because they market like crazy – any given day you’re bound to see an iPhone add or some new article will somehow manage to invent some new catagory iPhone has “won”.

    RIM makes devices that just work, the more you get familar with the device you learn how it’s easy to use, most functions can be done one handed. They have always valued having strong battery life and anyone who travels recognizes the value of an extra couple hours for calls / email.

    The internet (as with PC’s in the 90′s) is a huge draw, combined with the digital age of music/video and you see Apple was very smart moving the iPod line to smartphone to appeal to those who wish to “gadget consolidate”. RIM meanwhile has been taking their platform and keeps improving it’s feature set. They appeal to different market ends – Apple with the consumer / iPod group and RIM with the corporate users who value robust email/PIM functionality and for administration all the tools you need when you have to consider moible extension of your data / applications. Apple faces a greater challenge as they have zero identity in the corporate world other then those graphics / marketing types who won’t give up their Mac. It’s not a revolation that Apple came out with a killer device for internet and media. It’s what they do. Look at the device to mirror typical Blackberry usage and it lacks as a workhorse for the business user. Mostly due to some features are just not possible and others need to be developed.

    I browse the AppStore weekly and 90% of the content is junk, it’s fast becoming the GameStore as there is little business applications on there and those that are solid already are on Blackberry. I love that Apple is showing Loopt, yeah that was on Blackberry early this year. RIM needs to get out and be aggressive about what they can do and are doing.

    Sorry this has gone on – but I think the breakdown will be such:

    Enterprise – the Storm will outsell iPhone at least 2-1 if not higher as it’s on a network business like, the devices plugs into BES and will have all the standard security features we like to have.

    Consumer – iPhone will outsell Storm or at least be even until RIM can get the STORM on other carriers (at&t, Sprint) to broaden it’s market share.

    Apple made a huge mistake locking to at&t (who BTW are not too happy with Apple lately). The truth is no other carrier will comply to Apple’s terms, so it will be interesting how Jobs will start to accept he has to give up some things in his crusade to be a media giant.

  • MobileAdmin

    If you want to guage this strictly # of devices sold I would have to say Apple will get that. The itunes ecosystem is very tight. Apple is less a computer company then a media company. I’m sure if Jobs could find a way to put out the iPhone without having to use a carrier network he would.

    RIM the past 2-3 years has been trickling out consumer friendly devices to gain brand recognition. Apple wins this because they market like crazy – any given day you’re bound to see an iPhone add or some new article will somehow manage to invent some new catagory iPhone has “won”.

    RIM makes devices that just work, the more you get familar with the device you learn how it’s easy to use, most functions can be done one handed. They have always valued having strong battery life and anyone who travels recognizes the value of an extra couple hours for calls / email.

    The internet (as with PC’s in the 90′s) is a huge draw, combined with the digital age of music/video and you see Apple was very smart moving the iPod line to smartphone to appeal to those who wish to “gadget consolidate”. RIM meanwhile has been taking their platform and keeps improving it’s feature set. They appeal to different market ends – Apple with the consumer / iPod group and RIM with the corporate users who value robust email/PIM functionality and for administration all the tools you need when you have to consider moible extension of your data / applications. Apple faces a greater challenge as they have zero identity in the corporate world other then those graphics / marketing types who won’t give up their Mac. It’s not a revolation that Apple came out with a killer device for internet and media. It’s what they do. Look at the device to mirror typical Blackberry usage and it lacks as a workhorse for the business user. Mostly due to some features are just not possible and others need to be developed.

    I browse the AppStore weekly and 90% of the content is junk, it’s fast becoming the GameStore as there is little business applications on there and those that are solid already are on Blackberry. I love that Apple is showing Loopt, yeah that was on Blackberry early this year. RIM needs to get out and be aggressive about what they can do and are doing.

    Sorry this has gone on – but I think the breakdown will be such:

    Enterprise – the Storm will outsell iPhone at least 2-1 if not higher as it’s on a network business like, the devices plugs into BES and will have all the standard security features we like to have.

    Consumer – iPhone will outsell Storm or at least be even until RIM can get the STORM on other carriers (at&t, Sprint) to broaden it’s market share.

    Apple made a huge mistake locking to at&t (who BTW are not too happy with Apple lately). The truth is no other carrier will comply to Apple’s terms, so it will be interesting how Jobs will start to accept he has to give up some things in his crusade to be a media giant.

  • David R.

    The iPhone has already beat the Storm, hands down.

    First, it passed Blackberry as the No. 2 smartphone in marketshare worldwide. Second, it was ranked No. 1 in terms of quality and customer satisfaction by BUSINESS users in the latest J.D. Powers quality survey. Third, the latest SquareTrade study found the iPhone to be TWICE as reliable after one year than any Blackberry.

    But forget all these independent, third-party verdicts for a moment and let RIM’s own actions speak for themselves: RIM has gone out of it’s way to undercut the Storm by announcing the Storm 2 and Storm 3 for next year, basically admitting failure to top the iPhone BEFORE the Storm even comes out! Why would RIM do that if it was so confident?

    The answer, of course, is it’s not. I’ve played with the Storm and found while it has much to be admired, it’s neither an iPhone NOR a true Blackberry. It’s a weird piece of mish-mash that will satisfy neither iPhone fans nor true BlackBerry fanatics who appreciate the physical keyboard that seems to have reached perfection in the Bold, which, alas, lacks a full touchscreen, just like the Storm inexplicably lacks WiFi.

    What was RIM thinking with these mediocre phones like the PearlFlip, Bold, Storm and Javelin Curve? By “mediocre” I don’t mean “bad,” because they’re all good devices. But nobody is shopping for a good device these days. They want the game-changer. RIM got cute in splitting key features among different phones for different carriers. As a result, not ONE of their models has what the iPhone has: 3G, WiFi, Full Touchscreen, etc.

    And Apple isn’t standing still: iPhone firmware 2.2 is coming in a week, just in time to steal some more thunder from the Storm.

    Or should we call it the Drizzle?

  • David R.

    The iPhone has already beat the Storm, hands down.

    First, it passed Blackberry as the No. 2 smartphone in marketshare worldwide. Second, it was ranked No. 1 in terms of quality and customer satisfaction by BUSINESS users in the latest J.D. Powers quality survey. Third, the latest SquareTrade study found the iPhone to be TWICE as reliable after one year than any Blackberry.

    But forget all these independent, third-party verdicts for a moment and let RIM’s own actions speak for themselves: RIM has gone out of it’s way to undercut the Storm by announcing the Storm 2 and Storm 3 for next year, basically admitting failure to top the iPhone BEFORE the Storm even comes out! Why would RIM do that if it was so confident?

    The answer, of course, is it’s not. I’ve played with the Storm and found while it has much to be admired, it’s neither an iPhone NOR a true Blackberry. It’s a weird piece of mish-mash that will satisfy neither iPhone fans nor true BlackBerry fanatics who appreciate the physical keyboard that seems to have reached perfection in the Bold, which, alas, lacks a full touchscreen, just like the Storm inexplicably lacks WiFi.

    What was RIM thinking with these mediocre phones like the PearlFlip, Bold, Storm and Javelin Curve? By “mediocre” I don’t mean “bad,” because they’re all good devices. But nobody is shopping for a good device these days. They want the game-changer. RIM got cute in splitting key features among different phones for different carriers. As a result, not ONE of their models has what the iPhone has: 3G, WiFi, Full Touchscreen, etc.

    And Apple isn’t standing still: iPhone firmware 2.2 is coming in a week, just in time to steal some more thunder from the Storm.

    Or should we call it the Drizzle?

  • ghostzapper

    I wish we knew more about the respondents to the surveys in the first paragraph of the aforementioned post. Surveys and statistics can do a wonderful job of lying.

    All of the comparisons reminds me of those comparisons of years ago….John Deere vs. Case and Ford vs. GM. There is a big difference here however when does similar comparisons with the Storm and iPhone. The smartphone pie is less mature.

    I agree with the poster 2 back that a big hurdle for the iPhone will be its exclusivity agreements.

  • David R.

    P.S. The “toy” this holiday season isn’t the iPhone but the Storm. At least that’s how RIM is marketing the Storm——releasing it as a novelty on Black Friday in a desperate bid to rack up sales before Christmas, after which sales will PLUNGE. That’s NOT a big window of time, people, and you can expect a larger share of returns than normal for RIM devices with the Storm. That is why RIM is furiously working on the Storm 2 and Storm 3 and Magnum Bold/Storm — they know just how abysmal their sales numbers will be when they report them next Spring. By then, however, the name of the company may well be Microsoft, which already is preparing the tender off now that RIM is going to be scraping the bottom at $40 per share.

  • ghostzapper

    I wish we knew more about the respondents to the surveys in the first paragraph of the aforementioned post. Surveys and statistics can do a wonderful job of lying.

    All of the comparisons reminds me of those comparisons of years ago….John Deere vs. Case and Ford vs. GM. There is a big difference here however when does similar comparisons with the Storm and iPhone. The smartphone pie is less mature.

    I agree with the poster 2 back that a big hurdle for the iPhone will be its exclusivity agreements.

  • David R.

    P.S. The “toy” this holiday season isn’t the iPhone but the Storm. At least that’s how RIM is marketing the Storm——releasing it as a novelty on Black Friday in a desperate bid to rack up sales before Christmas, after which sales will PLUNGE. That’s NOT a big window of time, people, and you can expect a larger share of returns than normal for RIM devices with the Storm. That is why RIM is furiously working on the Storm 2 and Storm 3 and Magnum Bold/Storm — they know just how abysmal their sales numbers will be when they report them next Spring. By then, however, the name of the company may well be Microsoft, which already is preparing the tender off now that RIM is going to be scraping the bottom at $40 per share.

  • ghostzapper

    All sorts of hypothesis can be made in a bear market and the period pre-launch of product. In a couple weeks channel checks will be a whole lot more reliable than hypotheses.

  • ghostzapper

    All sorts of hypothesis can be made in a bear market and the period pre-launch of product. In a couple weeks channel checks will be a whole lot more reliable than hypotheses.

  • David R.

    Oops. Missed Ghostzapper’s comment with my last post. Good points. But I actually think Apple will be far better positioned post-ATT than RIM. Right now there’s only one iPhone in one form factor on only one carrier. You really think Verizon is going to say no to marketing the iPhone, especially if it’s a cool new form factor? And do you really think Verizon will keep the Storm ahead of the iPhone in its marketing budgets? The real onslaught for RIM will come when it’s surrounded by iPhones on all carriers. By then Apple will have all the negotiating leverage, not RIM, which is falling in marketshare and survey satisfaction. Yes, you can’t always trust surveys, but it’s hard dismiss three supremely respectable ones coming up all iPhone.

  • David R.

    Oops. Missed Ghostzapper’s comment with my last post. Good points. But I actually think Apple will be far better positioned post-ATT than RIM. Right now there’s only one iPhone in one form factor on only one carrier. You really think Verizon is going to say no to marketing the iPhone, especially if it’s a cool new form factor? And do you really think Verizon will keep the Storm ahead of the iPhone in its marketing budgets? The real onslaught for RIM will come when it’s surrounded by iPhones on all carriers. By then Apple will have all the negotiating leverage, not RIM, which is falling in marketshare and survey satisfaction. Yes, you can’t always trust surveys, but it’s hard dismiss three supremely respectable ones coming up all iPhone.

  • ghostzapper

    I’m curious to know when we’ll have information from Vodafone on the success of the launch. I’ll be watching news this week concerning Verizon’s invitation only receptions throughout this coming week. I live in Alberta and will await the debut here for Telus. I am a RIM shareholder and am watching the success of the launch. I’m hoping the launch will be successful and accordingly I will be making my first phone/smartphone purchase a Storm.

  • ghostzapper

    I’m curious to know when we’ll have information from Vodafone on the success of the launch. I’ll be watching news this week concerning Verizon’s invitation only receptions throughout this coming week. I live in Alberta and will await the debut here for Telus. I am a RIM shareholder and am watching the success of the launch. I’m hoping the launch will be successful and accordingly I will be making my first phone/smartphone purchase a Storm.

  • JHerz6

    Honestly I have wanted a touchscreen phone for quite some time, and I was not willing to change providers to get the high end phone that I would want. Especially to AT&T (Cingular)which provides such poor customer service. The iphone has has some nice features but there short comings make it not worth it to me, for example something as simple as not being able to change the battery at will which makes it inconvienent if the battery is dead or near dead and having to charge and leave behind or put it on the car charger and putting stress on an already limited battery. I think initially it will be slow for the storm I think but once it gets out there it will blow the iphone out of the water.

  • JHerz6

    Honestly I have wanted a touchscreen phone for quite some time, and I was not willing to change providers to get the high end phone that I would want. Especially to AT&T (Cingular)which provides such poor customer service. The iphone has has some nice features but there short comings make it not worth it to me, for example something as simple as not being able to change the battery at will which makes it inconvienent if the battery is dead or near dead and having to charge and leave behind or put it on the car charger and putting stress on an already limited battery. I think initially it will be slow for the storm I think but once it gets out there it will blow the iphone out of the water.

  • DavidB

    Funny…it was only a matter of time before the word got out and the Apple worshippers found this post. Anybody ELSE notice a definate early trend toward Blackberry in the initial comments, but as this post starts getting more popular expect even MORE iPhone fanbois to drop in a talk up their Apple religion.

    Come on, I’m supposed to take SERIOUS a smartphone that can’t have two applications active simultaneously? My web browser has to close in order for me to answer an email or take a phone call? Apple has made some wonderful products over the years (and I’ve used ‘em since the IIe), but iPhone is a toy, not a serious tool for people to rely upon for getting real productivity.

  • DavidB

    Funny…it was only a matter of time before the word got out and the Apple worshippers found this post. Anybody ELSE notice a definate early trend toward Blackberry in the initial comments, but as this post starts getting more popular expect even MORE iPhone fanbois to drop in a talk up their Apple religion.

    Come on, I’m supposed to take SERIOUS a smartphone that can’t have two applications active simultaneously? My web browser has to close in order for me to answer an email or take a phone call? Apple has made some wonderful products over the years (and I’ve used ‘em since the IIe), but iPhone is a toy, not a serious tool for people to rely upon for getting real productivity.

  • Josh

    Having fans does not necessarily make Apple bad, nor does it necessarily mean that one’s view of the product is skewed. In many categories, the notion of being populist is in and of itself a success. When people made fun of Excel users and lauded Lotus 1-2-3 as being a better “business tool,” they were fighting against a populist movement that turned out to be every bit as valid. It is, in fact, those that hate on Apple that are probably the most skewed.

    Looking at a recent JD Powers study of business users, iPhone outranked BB in most every category, but more importantly (as you can’t take it too seriously, being that they didn’t compare it against the 3G Bold or the new Storm), they ranked the keyboard, as an issue, lower on the list than the Web experience, email ACCESS, Bluetooth and UI. That ranking of important features will remain, even with the new devices. The truth is, BB is right to assume that business people are people, too. But Apple is also right to focus on the experience and brand over issues like the keyboard.

    My personal feeling is that there’s room for both and each will sacrifice in different directions: Apple will prioritize the overall experience and the worker bees will suffer slightly – and not care. BB will prioritize the workers and the overall experience will suffer – and they won’t care.

  • Josh

    Having fans does not necessarily make Apple bad, nor does it necessarily mean that one’s view of the product is skewed. In many categories, the notion of being populist is in and of itself a success. When people made fun of Excel users and lauded Lotus 1-2-3 as being a better “business tool,” they were fighting against a populist movement that turned out to be every bit as valid. It is, in fact, those that hate on Apple that are probably the most skewed.

    Looking at a recent JD Powers study of business users, iPhone outranked BB in most every category, but more importantly (as you can’t take it too seriously, being that they didn’t compare it against the 3G Bold or the new Storm), they ranked the keyboard, as an issue, lower on the list than the Web experience, email ACCESS, Bluetooth and UI. That ranking of important features will remain, even with the new devices. The truth is, BB is right to assume that business people are people, too. But Apple is also right to focus on the experience and brand over issues like the keyboard.

    My personal feeling is that there’s room for both and each will sacrifice in different directions: Apple will prioritize the overall experience and the worker bees will suffer slightly – and not care. BB will prioritize the workers and the overall experience will suffer – and they won’t care.

  • Ernie

    iPhone has the edge just because its seen as a must-have consumer device while Blackberry has a bit stogy, get-to-work business image. Since the consumer market is way bigger than the business market, iPhone will sell the most units.

  • Ernie

    iPhone has the edge just because its seen as a must-have consumer device while Blackberry has a bit stogy, get-to-work business image. Since the consumer market is way bigger than the business market, iPhone will sell the most units.

  • ASJ

    I’m going to say the iPhone will stay on top.

    Why? Service costs. It’s no doubt that Verizon has some of the best/most reliable coverage in North America. And it’s not doubt that their customer service is ‘award-winning-ly’ good. But what Verizon is also known for is expensive service plans.

    Everyone keeps comparing the phones. What they are NOT covering is the cost of the service plans. Verizon has the most expensive data plans in North America. Compare the cost of owning 3G service with AT&T versus similar service with Verizon and the price of the Storm or any Verizon ’smart’ phone is almost 3X as expensive.

    At the end of the day, both phones will still surf the inter-tubes, unclog your emails and play all of your pirated music. But when the $250+ Verizon bills comes people are going to say “oh, so THAT’s what the AT&T subscribers were complaining about when the iPhone first came out.”

    My $0.02