GPS now unlock for Verizon BlackBerry 8130 and 8330 (BlackBerry Bytes)

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A bunch of people have sent us emails that Verizon has now unlocked the GPS functionality for the BlackBerry 8130 and 8330. This will allow Verizon subscribers to finally use BlackBerry Maps (by selecting the ‘internal GPS’ option in your settings)! However, Google Maps will not work as Verizon deems it a ‘security risk’.

You’re going to need OS 4.5 to experience GPS freedom on your Verizon BlackBerry. Thankfully, we have all the information you need to upgrade to OS 4.5 at the links below.

BlackBerry OS 4.5 now available from BlackBerry.com/Upgrades. No, seriously.
How To: Upgrade your BlackBerry Software

  • addictedtoBB

    I have Verizon for my 8830 and I use Google Maps all the time. Why would these two models not be allowed to access the app? Is there a substantial difference in the platforms that would cause this issue?

  • addictedtoBB

    I have Verizon for my 8830 and I use Google Maps all the time. Why would these two models not be allowed to access the app? Is there a substantial difference in the platforms that would cause this issue?

  • DavidB

    @addicted:
    Your google maps does not and never has accessed the gps chip in your Verizon 8830. Google themselves say their app has never worked with a Verizon BB other then via their “My Location” (call tower/wifi ap triangulation). Don’t believe, google it or check ANY Blackberry forum.

    As to the article, confirmed GPS location and tracking is fully functional on Verizon 8830 also (running OS 4.5.0.101) in BB Maps.

  • DavidB

    @addicted:
    Your google maps does not and never has accessed the gps chip in your Verizon 8830. Google themselves say their app has never worked with a Verizon BB other then via their “My Location” (call tower/wifi ap triangulation). Don’t believe, google it or check ANY Blackberry forum.

    As to the article, confirmed GPS location and tracking is fully functional on Verizon 8830 also (running OS 4.5.0.101) in BB Maps.

  • http://www.blackberryauctions.com/blog Chris

    Yes! Finally! I had to reinstall Blackberry Maps on my Curve 8330 to see if this isn’t an April Fool’s posting. And what do you know…it works! Just wish that Google Maps would work just as well. But, oh well.

    Now I can start to use all the 3rd party social networking apps out there that utilize the GPS (like http://www.loopt.com, who at the moment isn’t supporting the 8330 yet).

  • http://www.blackberryauctions.com/blog Chris

    Yes! Finally! I had to reinstall Blackberry Maps on my Curve 8330 to see if this isn’t an April Fool’s posting. And what do you know…it works! Just wish that Google Maps would work just as well. But, oh well.

    Now I can start to use all the 3rd party social networking apps out there that utilize the GPS (like http://www.loopt.com, who at the moment isn’t supporting the 8330 yet).

  • DavidB

    @Chris:
    Don’t assume that because it works for BBMaps that it will (or ever will) work with any other LBS apps. I suspect Loopt and others will have to submit their product to Verizon for their “open” process and get approved before they can get access to location. Maybe there will be a hack that other apss can tap into location as long as BBMaps is running but I wouldn’t count on any app getting direct GPS access unless Verizon approves it. :(

  • DavidB

    @Chris:
    Don’t assume that because it works for BBMaps that it will (or ever will) work with any other LBS apps. I suspect Loopt and others will have to submit their product to Verizon for their “open” process and get approved before they can get access to location. Maybe there will be a hack that other apss can tap into location as long as BBMaps is running but I wouldn’t count on any app getting direct GPS access unless Verizon approves it. :(

  • Ed

    Works with unofficial OS 4.5.0.56. It’s nice to have GPS on my phone.

  • Ed

    Works with unofficial OS 4.5.0.56. It’s nice to have GPS on my phone.

  • andy

    i installed the new version thingy.. i cant even install blackberry maps because on the website it’s only for v1.x and v2.x … and none of my GPS functions seem to be working.. WHYYY!!
    blackberry 8330 verizon

  • andy

    i installed the new version thingy.. i cant even install blackberry maps because on the website it’s only for v1.x and v2.x … and none of my GPS functions seem to be working.. WHYYY!!
    blackberry 8330 verizon

  • Jim Treharne

    Our IT person called Verizon about getting GPS enabled – and they indicated “VZW Navigator costs $9.99 per line”. We already new that. Is it your understanding that this has been (re)enabled for free with Blackberry Map?

    JTT

  • Jim Treharne

    Our IT person called Verizon about getting GPS enabled – and they indicated “VZW Navigator costs $9.99 per line”. We already new that. Is it your understanding that this has been (re)enabled for free with Blackberry Map?

    JTT

  • DavidB

    @Jim:
    Yes. It is confirmed by many Verizon subscribers on many sites to work 100% free of charge on Blackberry 8130/8330/8830 running an OS 4.5. However, as I understand it this sort of thing can be locked out by a BES admin, so if you are on a BES and have a restrictive policy it may not work for you.

  • DavidB

    @Jim:
    Yes. It is confirmed by many Verizon subscribers on many sites to work 100% free of charge on Blackberry 8130/8330/8830 running an OS 4.5. However, as I understand it this sort of thing can be locked out by a BES admin, so if you are on a BES and have a restrictive policy it may not work for you.

  • DavidB

    @Jim:
    Yes. It is confirmed by many Verizon subscribers on many sites to work 100% free of charge on Blackberry 8130/8330/8830 running an OS 4.5. However, as I understand it this sort of thing can be locked out by a BES admin, so if you are on a BES and have a restrictive policy it may not work for you.

  • DavidB

    @Jim:
    Yes. It is confirmed by many Verizon subscribers on many sites to work 100% free of charge on Blackberry 8130/8330/8830 running an OS 4.5. However, as I understand it this sort of thing can be locked out by a BES admin, so if you are on a BES and have a restrictive policy it may not work for you.

  • Johnny B

    …great…but how do you change the settings to point it to the internal gps chip?

  • Johnny B

    …great…but how do you change the settings to point it to the internal gps chip?

  • DavidB

    Make sure Location is enable (not 911 only) in Advanced Options…GPS. And do a battery pull reset. You are running a 4.5.x.x OS right?

  • DavidB

    Make sure Location is enable (not 911 only) in Advanced Options…GPS. And do a battery pull reset. You are running a 4.5.x.x OS right?

  • Johnny B

    DavidB…yes I am running 4.5.0.77. All the settings are as you say but I hadn’t tried a battery pull…did that and it’s now working great..thanks! Is there a way to set the backlight to stay on indefinitely while in GPS mapping mode

  • Johnny B

    DavidB…yes I am running 4.5.0.77. All the settings are as you say but I hadn’t tried a battery pull…did that and it’s now working great..thanks! Is there a way to set the backlight to stay on indefinitely while in GPS mapping mode

  • Johnny B

    DavidB…yes I am running 4.5.0.77. All the settings are as you say but I hadn’t tried a battery pull…did that and it’s now working great..thanks! Is there a way to set the backlight to stay on indefinitely while in GPS mapping mode

  • DavidB

    @Johnny:
    Glad that fixed you up. Not sure about the backlight, I think you have to disable it in Options in order for it to stay on all the time. There is a setting in BBMaps to control backlight via battery charge level but not sure that works 100% correctly. Try it though.

  • DavidB

    @Johnny:
    Glad that fixed you up. Not sure about the backlight, I think you have to disable it in Options in order for it to stay on all the time. There is a setting in BBMaps to control backlight via battery charge level but not sure that works 100% correctly. Try it though.

  • Frank

    Verizon supports Trimble Outdoors software on 24 of their handsets but not on the Blackberries. I wonder why this is? It can’t be security reasons, because they do support their software. Trimble has a program called Geocache Navigator and all other service providers support it on their Blackberries but not Verizon. I want a Blackberry but Verizon is too proprietary.

  • Frank

    Verizon supports Trimble Outdoors software on 24 of their handsets but not on the Blackberries. I wonder why this is? It can’t be security reasons, because they do support their software. Trimble has a program called Geocache Navigator and all other service providers support it on their Blackberries but not Verizon. I want a Blackberry but Verizon is too proprietary.

  • mike

    I can’t seem to get the BBMaps to redownload on my BB 8130. I deleted BBMaps from my 8130(just got it last week) before I realised BBMaps was the only program that allows use of the GPS. I go to the BB RIM webpage on my BB and go to the map programs and try to dl BBMaps but it tells me my device isn’t compatible?!?!? I can’t get it to dl onto my laptop so I can manually install it either. Anyone care to shed some light on where I might be able to pick up the BBMaps app again besides the RIM website?

    Mike

  • mike

    I can’t seem to get the BBMaps to redownload on my BB 8130. I deleted BBMaps from my 8130(just got it last week) before I realised BBMaps was the only program that allows use of the GPS. I go to the BB RIM webpage on my BB and go to the map programs and try to dl BBMaps but it tells me my device isn’t compatible?!?!? I can’t get it to dl onto my laptop so I can manually install it either. Anyone care to shed some light on where I might be able to pick up the BBMaps app again besides the RIM website?

    Mike

  • DavidB

    Download the OS from Verizon. Install on PC. Run Desktop manager. Go to the install/remove device software section. It shoul recognize that what is on you device matches your PC except for things missing like BBMaps. Select it and it installs without touching anything else.

  • DavidB

    Download the OS from Verizon. Install on PC. Run Desktop manager. Go to the install/remove device software section. It shoul recognize that what is on you device matches your PC except for things missing like BBMaps. Select it and it installs without touching anything else.

  • DavidB

    Download the OS from Verizon. Install on PC. Run Desktop manager. Go to the install/remove device software section. It shoul recognize that what is on you device matches your PC except for things missing like BBMaps. Select it and it installs without touching anything else.

  • JimH

    I would like to run Greenfinder on my Blackberry 8330. My carrier is Verizon. I have the 4.5 Verizon installed. When I try to lauch the application I get the message “GPS not supported on this platform…” Is there anything I can do to make this work?

  • JimH

    I would like to run Greenfinder on my Blackberry 8330. My carrier is Verizon. I have the 4.5 Verizon installed. When I try to lauch the application I get the message “GPS not supported on this platform…” Is there anything I can do to make this work?

  • Ralph

    I downloaded and installed Geocache Navigator just to see if it would work on the Blackberry 8330 with OS 4.5.0.77 with the GPS enabled.
    The app itself works, but the GPS capability does NOT work.
    However, you can still search for caches by typing in your coordinates and it will interface with Geocaching.com to find caches in your area, as well as use all the other features, so it’s a nice app for that at least. However, I’m not sure if it’s worth $5.99/month without the GPS functionality.
    Google Maps and Blackberry Maps work great on my device.
    However, if I run the GPS test found here:
    http://forums.crackberry.com/f61/gps-coordinates-your-8830-a-171334/
    it times out.
    I’m of the opinion that the GPS functionality is not completely “unlocked” on Verizon Blackberry phones (at least not the 8830).

  • Ralph

    I downloaded and installed Geocache Navigator just to see if it would work on the Blackberry 8330 with OS 4.5.0.77 with the GPS enabled.
    The app itself works, but the GPS capability does NOT work.
    However, you can still search for caches by typing in your coordinates and it will interface with Geocaching.com to find caches in your area, as well as use all the other features, so it’s a nice app for that at least. However, I’m not sure if it’s worth $5.99/month without the GPS functionality.
    Google Maps and Blackberry Maps work great on my device.
    However, if I run the GPS test found here:
    http://forums.crackberry.com/f61/gps-coordinates-your-8830-a-171334/
    it times out.
    I’m of the opinion that the GPS functionality is not completely “unlocked” on Verizon Blackberry phones (at least not the 8830).

  • Ralph

    err.., at least not the 8330.

  • Ralph

    err.., at least not the 8330.

  • Ralph

    err.., at least not the 8330.

  • DavidB

    @Ralph,
    Correct. On 8×30 BlackBerry smartphones from Verizon, when upgraded to a 4.5 OS, true GPS will work with BlackBerry Maps. This is the ONLY “free” application that can use the GPS chip on a Verizon 8×30 BlackBerry, period. There ARE free apps that work with true GPS on the Storm 9530, but that’s totally unrelated. And who knows what will work with the coming 8230 Pearl Flip or 9630 Niagra.
    We can all WANT Verizon to allow more apps to access GPS on our 8×30 BlackBerry smartphones, but it plain and simple aint gonna happen. These are all “ancient” in electronics lifecycle terms, and Verizon has only demonstrated a more “open” policy on “new” devices (like the Storm).

  • DavidB

    @Ralph,
    Correct. On 8×30 BlackBerry smartphones from Verizon, when upgraded to a 4.5 OS, true GPS will work with BlackBerry Maps. This is the ONLY “free” application that can use the GPS chip on a Verizon 8×30 BlackBerry, period. There ARE free apps that work with true GPS on the Storm 9530, but that’s totally unrelated. And who knows what will work with the coming 8230 Pearl Flip or 9630 Niagra.
    We can all WANT Verizon to allow more apps to access GPS on our 8×30 BlackBerry smartphones, but it plain and simple aint gonna happen. These are all “ancient” in electronics lifecycle terms, and Verizon has only demonstrated a more “open” policy on “new” devices (like the Storm).

  • Alfret

    O meu Celular 8130 Black.tem chip fixo o q eu faço p mudar o numero
    Alfret

  • Alfret

    O meu Celular 8130 Black.tem chip fixo o q eu faço p mudar o numero
    Alfret

  • Mr.Bigg

    Anyone have any info. on getting the GPS to work on a Storm? Frankly, I am getting increasingly pissed at being screwed by Verizon. I have been in cellular since 80′s, and this is the same crap that providers have been pulling since the beginning of the technology.

  • Mr.Bigg

    Anyone have any info. on getting the GPS to work on a Storm? Frankly, I am getting increasingly pissed at being screwed by Verizon. I have been in cellular since 80′s, and this is the same crap that providers have been pulling since the beginning of the technology.

  • DavidB

    @Bigg:
    You have a Storm? What GPS apps don’t work? They all work on mine. Even ones like Google Maps and Nav4All and such that don’t work on any Verizon 8xxx or 7xxx series BlackBerry work on the Storm.

  • DavidB

    @Bigg:
    You have a Storm? What GPS apps don’t work? They all work on mine. Even ones like Google Maps and Nav4All and such that don’t work on any Verizon 8xxx or 7xxx series BlackBerry work on the Storm.

  • rob

    Here’s my what worked with my vw storm. VZNavigator cost $10/month, however other apps are able to access the internal gps at no cost. There were a few things i had to do to get it to work. Go to: Options->Advanced Options->GPS, set “GPS Data Source” to: Device GPS, and “GPS Services” to Location On (Not E911 Only).
    After that Programs like Nav4All, GPSed, Poynt, Trapster (one of my personal favs), etc. should all work. To get google maps / Latitude to work you need to install “GPSed” and leave it running in the background, then google maps will get your location from the GPS instead of using cell tower triangulation.