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	<title>Comments on: iPhone 3.0 vs Palm Pre vs BlackBerry vs Android vs WinMo</title>
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		<title>By: carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marvin,

sounds like you got a problem with yours, shouldn&#039;t be taking hours.

this is defo an iphone lover post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marvin,</p>
<p>sounds like you got a problem with yours, shouldn&#8217;t be taking hours.</p>
<p>this is defo an iphone lover post</p>
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		<title>By: MarvinK</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/03/19/iphone-30-vs-palm-pre-vs-blackberry-vs-android-vs-winmo/comment-page-1/#comment-341711</link>
		<dc:creator>MarvinK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a bad idea to have onboard memory--and it seems like if you&#039;re going to include memory, it should be substantial (not a lame 1GB).  Still, it&#039;s hard to argue against removable memory.  I can&#039;t see many decent arguments for how internal memory is better--external memory is cheap and easy to upgrade over time.  In a year, a standard 8GB iPhone is going to seem sort of ridiculous when 32-64GB microSD cards are &lt;$100.  Too bad the iPhone doesn&#039;t offer BOTH.

My biggest complaint with BlackBerry and big memory cards is the indexing/scanning is HORRIBLY slow.  If you load up a 16GB card with memory and stick it in your BlackBerry, you&#039;ve got a LONG wait before it&#039;s ready.  I am talking hours.  It seems like it shouldn&#039;t take THAT long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a bad idea to have onboard memory&#8211;and it seems like if you&#8217;re going to include memory, it should be substantial (not a lame 1GB).  Still, it&#8217;s hard to argue against removable memory.  I can&#8217;t see many decent arguments for how internal memory is better&#8211;external memory is cheap and easy to upgrade over time.  In a year, a standard 8GB iPhone is going to seem sort of ridiculous when 32-64GB microSD cards are &lt;$100.  Too bad the iPhone doesn&#8217;t offer BOTH.</p>
<p>My biggest complaint with BlackBerry and big memory cards is the indexing/scanning is HORRIBLY slow.  If you load up a 16GB card with memory and stick it in your BlackBerry, you&#8217;ve got a LONG wait before it&#8217;s ready.  I am talking hours.  It seems like it shouldn&#8217;t take THAT long.</p>
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		<title>By: O</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/03/19/iphone-30-vs-palm-pre-vs-blackberry-vs-android-vs-winmo/comment-page-1/#comment-341582</link>
		<dc:creator>O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Dan
March 23, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Also why do they have “Music and video stores on the device”??? That is one of the worst features of the iPhone, no expandable memory! If the device dies so does all of your music that was on it. With a BB you can just take out the card and pop it in another one.&lt;&lt;

That&#039;s a rather strange question.  They have Music and video stores so that we can purchase music and videos on the fly.
If you hate music and videos, then by all means stay away from the iPhone.

16 gigs is more than enough for my needs.
If the device dies, or gets lost, simply sinc a saved back-up copy from your hard drive into a new device.

Hope that answers your inquiry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Dan<br />
March 23, 2009 at 2:59 pm<br />
Also why do they have “Music and video stores on the device”??? That is one of the worst features of the iPhone, no expandable memory! If the device dies so does all of your music that was on it. With a BB you can just take out the card and pop it in another one.&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a rather strange question.  They have Music and video stores so that we can purchase music and videos on the fly.<br />
If you hate music and videos, then by all means stay away from the iPhone.</p>
<p>16 gigs is more than enough for my needs.<br />
If the device dies, or gets lost, simply sinc a saved back-up copy from your hard drive into a new device.</p>
<p>Hope that answers your inquiry.</p>
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		<title>By: Whitney</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/03/19/iphone-30-vs-palm-pre-vs-blackberry-vs-android-vs-winmo/comment-page-1/#comment-341264</link>
		<dc:creator>Whitney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is definitely an iPhone lover post. If you are going to post info...make sure it&#039;s correct info. This post made you look really dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is definitely an iPhone lover post. If you are going to post info&#8230;make sure it&#8217;s correct info. This post made you look really dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/03/19/iphone-30-vs-palm-pre-vs-blackberry-vs-android-vs-winmo/comment-page-1/#comment-341132</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also why do they have &quot;Music and video stores on the device&quot;??? That is one of the worst features of the iPhone, no expandable memory! If the device dies so does all of your music that was on it. With a BB you can just take out the card and pop it in another one.

This is definitely and iPhone biased post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also why do they have &#8220;Music and video stores on the device&#8221;??? That is one of the worst features of the iPhone, no expandable memory! If the device dies so does all of your music that was on it. With a BB you can just take out the card and pop it in another one.</p>
<p>This is definitely and iPhone biased post.</p>
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		<title>By: MarvinK</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/03/19/iphone-30-vs-palm-pre-vs-blackberry-vs-android-vs-winmo/comment-page-1/#comment-340917</link>
		<dc:creator>MarvinK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.. BlackBerry OS updates are lame.  You lose all your settings for third-party apps and you have to re-activate with the BES.  It&#039;s a different 100MB download for every model.

The thing not captured by this chart, which I am SO thoroughly disgusted about with the iPhone, is the lack of ability to invite others to calendar events.  It is totally ridiculous.  I haven&#039;t seen any mention of that being added in 3.0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.. BlackBerry OS updates are lame.  You lose all your settings for third-party apps and you have to re-activate with the BES.  It&#8217;s a different 100MB download for every model.</p>
<p>The thing not captured by this chart, which I am SO thoroughly disgusted about with the iPhone, is the lack of ability to invite others to calendar events.  It is totally ridiculous.  I haven&#8217;t seen any mention of that being added in 3.0.</p>
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		<title>By: moog</title>
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		<dc:creator>moog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ryan howso?  I&#039;ve never had an issue.  Been a BB user for 7 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ryan howso?  I&#8217;ve never had an issue.  Been a BB user for 7 years.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/03/19/iphone-30-vs-palm-pre-vs-blackberry-vs-android-vs-winmo/comment-page-1/#comment-340513</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Desktop Upgrades on the BB are a pain in the a*s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desktop Upgrades on the BB are a pain in the a*s</p>
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		<title>By: Eyedol</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/03/19/iphone-30-vs-palm-pre-vs-blackberry-vs-android-vs-winmo/comment-page-1/#comment-340496</link>
		<dc:creator>Eyedol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this look like an iphone lover post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this look like an iphone lover post.</p>
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		<title>By: Moose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this list is pretty interesting actually.  People talk their phones up so much, it&#039;s nice to get it all on paper and look at which phones have/don&#039;t have the features.  

Here&#039;s some more info about the Palm Pre and iPhone battle:
http://www.newsy.com/videos/smarter_phone_wars/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this list is pretty interesting actually.  People talk their phones up so much, it&#8217;s nice to get it all on paper and look at which phones have/don&#8217;t have the features.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some more info about the Palm Pre and iPhone battle:<br />
<a href="http://www.newsy.com/videos/smarter_phone_wars/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsy.com/videos/smarter_phone_wars/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does Hype have to swear so much to make his points?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does Hype have to swear so much to make his points?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is the BB with BIS support listed for OTA Exchange sync?  Who in their right mind would do that?!  BIS support is for basic e-mail functions and with BES you can sync everything over the air with basically no efforts.  Why is the iPhone listed as having full exchange support?  I personally haven&#039;t used one, but I doubt it fully supports exchange without a server plugin, maybe I&#039;m wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is the BB with BIS support listed for OTA Exchange sync?  Who in their right mind would do that?!  BIS support is for basic e-mail functions and with BES you can sync everything over the air with basically no efforts.  Why is the iPhone listed as having full exchange support?  I personally haven&#8217;t used one, but I doubt it fully supports exchange without a server plugin, maybe I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Hype</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/03/19/iphone-30-vs-palm-pre-vs-blackberry-vs-android-vs-winmo/comment-page-1/#comment-340418</link>
		<dc:creator>Hype</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Moog

or for that matter, easier than plugging it into BlackBerry Desktop Manager and having it auto-check and upgrade? No different than iTunes would do it, that&#039;s for sure.

It&#039;s like Blackberrycool.com wanted to knock BlackBerry just to show they have some humility or something, but seriously, if they&#039;re going to bend the rules for 2 or 3 of them on there apply the same bend for RIM.

And I&#039;m disappointed they credit Apple&#039;s &quot;universal search&quot; which is strikingly similar to &quot;Search&quot; on BlackBerries, but because RIM doesn&#039;t have such a bad way of clusterfucking icons on different pages, they don&#039;t need to search by application, but everything else you can search by. (messages, calendars, contacts, memos, messenger and tasks) This was able to be done for years now, and RIM could easily add the few lacking search fields but it&#039;s device wide and they can search.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Moog</p>
<p>or for that matter, easier than plugging it into BlackBerry Desktop Manager and having it auto-check and upgrade? No different than iTunes would do it, that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like Blackberrycool.com wanted to knock BlackBerry just to show they have some humility or something, but seriously, if they&#8217;re going to bend the rules for 2 or 3 of them on there apply the same bend for RIM.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m disappointed they credit Apple&#8217;s &#8220;universal search&#8221; which is strikingly similar to &#8220;Search&#8221; on BlackBerries, but because RIM doesn&#8217;t have such a bad way of clusterfucking icons on different pages, they don&#8217;t need to search by application, but everything else you can search by. (messages, calendars, contacts, memos, messenger and tasks) This was able to be done for years now, and RIM could easily add the few lacking search fields but it&#8217;s device wide and they can search.</p>
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		<title>By: moog</title>
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		<dc:creator>moog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is &quot;easy upgrades&quot; not checked for BlackBerry?  What&#039;s easier than OTA upgrades?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is &#8220;easy upgrades&#8221; not checked for BlackBerry?  What&#8217;s easier than OTA upgrades?!?</p>
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		<title>By: The Z Man</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/03/19/iphone-30-vs-palm-pre-vs-blackberry-vs-android-vs-winmo/comment-page-1/#comment-340414</link>
		<dc:creator>The Z Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on your chart, they&#039;re all pretty equal ... on paper.

It&#039;s not necessarily that &quot;this phone does the same thing as this phone&quot; .. it&#039;s more &quot;this phone does the same thing BUT does it WAY better&quot; that really determines which is a better device.

I have an iPod Touch 2G and a BlackBerry Pearl. I use each for different functions because each one does do somethings better than the other.

I&#039;m a hands down BB believer / developer / addict and will use nothing but a BB for my phone. Hands down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on your chart, they&#8217;re all pretty equal &#8230; on paper.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not necessarily that &#8220;this phone does the same thing as this phone&#8221; .. it&#8217;s more &#8220;this phone does the same thing BUT does it WAY better&#8221; that really determines which is a better device.</p>
<p>I have an iPod Touch 2G and a BlackBerry Pearl. I use each for different functions because each one does do somethings better than the other.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a hands down BB believer / developer / addict and will use nothing but a BB for my phone. Hands down.</p>
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		<title>By: Hype</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hype</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a bunch of shit.

&quot;App World is coming soon so that will be added to BlackBerry’s column.&quot;

Half the features you have given to Apple as &quot;having&quot; are technically &quot;coming soon&quot; too, so why the fuck give them credit where credit is not due yet?

And why is the Pre even on there as the whole phone is &quot;coming soon&quot;? Why are you bending the rules for others and not RIM? 

And I hope you know MobileMe comes with a subscription cost above and beyond carrier charges, and is not free like BIS for all BlackBerries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a bunch of shit.</p>
<p>&#8220;App World is coming soon so that will be added to BlackBerry’s column.&#8221;</p>
<p>Half the features you have given to Apple as &#8220;having&#8221; are technically &#8220;coming soon&#8221; too, so why the fuck give them credit where credit is not due yet?</p>
<p>And why is the Pre even on there as the whole phone is &#8220;coming soon&#8221;? Why are you bending the rules for others and not RIM? </p>
<p>And I hope you know MobileMe comes with a subscription cost above and beyond carrier charges, and is not free like BIS for all BlackBerries.</p>
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