Comments on: Smartphone research comparing iPhone and BlackBerry often flawed http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/ The voice of the BlackBerry community. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: ???????????????? social network app ??????? iPhone VS. BB | ??? ????? http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-465772 ???????????????? social network app ??????? iPhone VS. BB | ??? ????? Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:44:41 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-465772 [...] ??????????????????????????? social networking ???????????? my space , Linkedin ????????????????? Smartphone ????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????? BlackBerry ???????????????? consumer ??????? ????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????? interface ????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????? BlackBerry ???????????????????????????????? social networking ???????????? ????? BlackBerry ??????????????? cosumer ??????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????? blackberrycool [...] [...] ??????????????????????????? social networking ???????????? my space , Linkedin ????????????????? Smartphone ????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????? BlackBerry ???????????????? consumer ??????? ????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????? interface ????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????? BlackBerry ???????????????????????????????? social networking ???????????? ????? BlackBerry ??????????????? cosumer ??????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????? blackberrycool [...]

]]> By: Oleg Kiorsak http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-405881 Oleg Kiorsak Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:44:37 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-405881 Most of Blackberries are found in Enterprise/Corporate settings where they are often very much LOCKED-DOWN so user just can NOT install and run even RIM-made apps for "social networks" etc whereas iPhones are mostly personal and therefore not locked-down... besides iPhones has a decent browser so one can engage with social networking just via their respective web sites... so the results of the study seem real and reflecting the above facts... Most of Blackberries are found in Enterprise/Corporate settings
where they are often very much LOCKED-DOWN so user just can NOT
install and run even RIM-made apps for “social networks” etc

whereas iPhones are mostly personal and therefore not locked-down…
besides iPhones has a decent browser so one can engage with social networking just via their respective web sites…

so the results of the study seem real and reflecting the above facts…

]]> By: Oleg Kiorsak http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-505630 Oleg Kiorsak Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:44:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-505630 Most of Blackberries are found in Enterprise/Corporate settings where they are often very much LOCKED-DOWN so user just can NOT install and run even RIM-made apps for "social networks" etc whereas iPhones are mostly personal and therefore not locked-down... besides iPhones has a decent browser so one can engage with social networking just via their respective web sites... so the results of the study seem real and reflecting the above facts... Most of Blackberries are found in Enterprise/Corporate settings
where they are often very much LOCKED-DOWN so user just can NOT
install and run even RIM-made apps for “social networks” etc

whereas iPhones are mostly personal and therefore not locked-down…
besides iPhones has a decent browser so one can engage with social networking just via their respective web sites…

so the results of the study seem real and reflecting the above facts…

]]> By: erasure25 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-405497 erasure25 Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:21:02 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-405497 Often times, "researchers" already have a conclusion in mind that they want to reach. Then they tailor their "study" to reach that conclusion and validate their pre-cognitive abilities. Or they just make up data. Often times, these people designing these "surveys" have no training in the sciences and have no idea what confounding variables are. They also have no idea how to interpret results and do not even consider asking a control question to establish a baseline. Often times, “researchers” already have a conclusion in mind that they want to reach. Then they tailor their “study” to reach that conclusion and validate their pre-cognitive abilities. Or they just make up data.

Often times, these people designing these “surveys” have no training in the sciences and have no idea what confounding variables are. They also have no idea how to interpret results and do not even consider asking a control question to establish a baseline.

]]> By: erasure25 http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-505629 erasure25 Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:21:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-505629 Often times, "researchers" already have a conclusion in mind that they want to reach. Then they tailor their "study" to reach that conclusion and validate their pre-cognitive abilities. Or they just make up data. Often times, these people designing these "surveys" have no training in the sciences and have no idea what confounding variables are. They also have no idea how to interpret results and do not even consider asking a control question to establish a baseline. Often times, “researchers” already have a conclusion in mind that they want to reach. Then they tailor their “study” to reach that conclusion and validate their pre-cognitive abilities. Or they just make up data.

Often times, these people designing these “surveys” have no training in the sciences and have no idea what confounding variables are. They also have no idea how to interpret results and do not even consider asking a control question to establish a baseline.

]]> By: Marco http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-405401 Marco Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:09:21 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-405401 interesting about this whole topic could be another point of view: is it true, that a device which is easier to use because of a good interface design is technologically more challenging, than one designed in a different/ not as user friendly manner? the same comparison applies in the neverending win/osx comparison, where you cannot automagically assume, an early adopter is a more technology savvy person. usually a pro user of blackberry or windows might be more savvy as they can overcome the restrictions brought by bad system design. dont get me wrong, i develop for osx and iphone, android, etc. but i guess this might be a valid point of view, too, rendering these social hullaballoo comparisons meaningless. never believe a comparison you didn't fake yourself ;) interesting about this whole topic could be another point of view: is it true, that a device which is easier to use because of a good interface design is technologically more challenging, than one designed in a different/ not as user friendly manner?

the same comparison applies in the neverending win/osx comparison, where you cannot automagically assume, an early adopter is a more technology savvy person. usually a pro user of blackberry or windows might be more savvy as they can overcome the restrictions brought by bad system design. dont get me wrong, i develop for osx and iphone, android, etc. but i guess this might be a valid point of view, too, rendering these social hullaballoo comparisons meaningless.

never believe a comparison you didn’t fake yourself ;)

]]> By: Marco http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-505626 Marco Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:09:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-505626 interesting about this whole topic could be another point of view: is it true, that a device which is easier to use because of a good interface design is technologically more challenging, than one designed in a different/ not as user friendly manner? the same comparison applies in the neverending win/osx comparison, where you cannot automagically assume, an early adopter is a more technology savvy person. usually a pro user of blackberry or windows might be more savvy as they can overcome the restrictions brought by bad system design. dont get me wrong, i develop for osx and iphone, android, etc. but i guess this might be a valid point of view, too, rendering these social hullaballoo comparisons meaningless. never believe a comparison you didn't fake yourself ;) interesting about this whole topic could be another point of view: is it true, that a device which is easier to use because of a good interface design is technologically more challenging, than one designed in a different/ not as user friendly manner?

the same comparison applies in the neverending win/osx comparison, where you cannot automagically assume, an early adopter is a more technology savvy person. usually a pro user of blackberry or windows might be more savvy as they can overcome the restrictions brought by bad system design. dont get me wrong, i develop for osx and iphone, android, etc. but i guess this might be a valid point of view, too, rendering these social hullaballoo comparisons meaningless.

never believe a comparison you didn’t fake yourself ;)

]]> By: Marco http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-505627 Marco Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:09:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-505627 interesting about this whole topic could be another point of view: is it true, that a device which is easier to use because of a good interface design is technologically more challenging, than one designed in a different/ not as user friendly manner? the same comparison applies in the neverending win/osx comparison, where you cannot automagically assume, an early adopter is a more technology savvy person. usually a pro user of blackberry or windows might be more savvy as they can overcome the restrictions brought by bad system design. dont get me wrong, i develop for osx and iphone, android, etc. but i guess this might be a valid point of view, too, rendering these social hullaballoo comparisons meaningless. never believe a comparison you didn't fake yourself ;) interesting about this whole topic could be another point of view: is it true, that a device which is easier to use because of a good interface design is technologically more challenging, than one designed in a different/ not as user friendly manner?

the same comparison applies in the neverending win/osx comparison, where you cannot automagically assume, an early adopter is a more technology savvy person. usually a pro user of blackberry or windows might be more savvy as they can overcome the restrictions brought by bad system design. dont get me wrong, i develop for osx and iphone, android, etc. but i guess this might be a valid point of view, too, rendering these social hullaballoo comparisons meaningless.

never believe a comparison you didn’t fake yourself ;)

]]> By: DavidB http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-405399 DavidB Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:06:12 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-405399 If the number of iPhone users was roughly comparable to the number of BlackBerry users, above chart might be meaningful. But since it isn't, such a chart is meaningless. If the number of iPhone users was roughly comparable to the number of BlackBerry users, above chart might be meaningful. But since it isn’t, such a chart is meaningless.

]]> By: DavidB http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-505625 DavidB Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:06:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-505625 If the number of iPhone users was roughly comparable to the number of BlackBerry users, above chart might be meaningful. But since it isn't, such a chart is meaningless. If the number of iPhone users was roughly comparable to the number of BlackBerry users, above chart might be meaningful. But since it isn’t, such a chart is meaningless.

]]> By: BlackBerry http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-405251 BlackBerry Fri, 11 Sep 2009 03:29:26 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-405251 [...] Here is the original:  Smartphone investigate scrutiny iPhone and BlackBerry ofttimes imperfect … [...] [...] Here is the original:  Smartphone investigate scrutiny iPhone and BlackBerry ofttimes imperfect … [...]

]]> By: BlackBerryCool (BlackBerry Cool) http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-405463 BlackBerryCool (BlackBerry Cool) Fri, 11 Sep 2009 01:40:25 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-405463 Smartphone research comparing iPhone and BlackBerry often flawed http://bit.ly/xd831 Smartphone research comparing iPhone and BlackBerry often flawed http://bit.ly/xd831

]]> By: BlackBerryCool (BlackBerry Coo http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-505628 BlackBerryCool (BlackBerry Coo Fri, 11 Sep 2009 01:40:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-505628 Smartphone research comparing iPhone and BlackBerry often flawed http://bit.ly/xd831 Smartphone research comparing iPhone and BlackBerry often flawed http://bit.ly/xd831

]]> By: Jim http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-405212 Jim Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:00:59 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-405212 I agree that many of these studies are skewed one way or another. For example the figures used to promote the curve as the number 1 selling smartphone (over the iPhone 3Gs). 'Curve' was broadly defined as 5 distinct devices (including the completely different 8900), and compared against only the iPhone 3Gs (one device, which was not bundled with the 3G - which is contradictory considering the curve was bundled with all of its incarnations). Having said all that everybody has different requirements, and will choose a device to suit, so I don't think it is fair to say that one device is any any 'better' than another. BlackBerries do some things really well, and iPhones do other things really well, and it is up to the user to decide which is 'better' for their needs. I agree that many of these studies are skewed one way or another. For example the figures used to promote the curve as the number 1 selling smartphone (over the iPhone 3Gs). ‘Curve’ was broadly defined as 5 distinct devices (including the completely different 8900), and compared against only the iPhone 3Gs (one device, which was not bundled with the 3G – which is contradictory considering the curve was bundled with all of its incarnations).

Having said all that everybody has different requirements, and will choose a device to suit, so I don’t think it is fair to say that one device is any any ‘better’ than another. BlackBerries do some things really well, and iPhones do other things really well, and it is up to the user to decide which is ‘better’ for their needs.

]]> By: Jim http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-505623 Jim Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-505623 I agree that many of these studies are skewed one way or another. For example the figures used to promote the curve as the number 1 selling smartphone (over the iPhone 3Gs). 'Curve' was broadly defined as 5 distinct devices (including the completely different 8900), and compared against only the iPhone 3Gs (one device, which was not bundled with the 3G - which is contradictory considering the curve was bundled with all of its incarnations). Having said all that everybody has different requirements, and will choose a device to suit, so I don't think it is fair to say that one device is any any 'better' than another. BlackBerries do some things really well, and iPhones do other things really well, and it is up to the user to decide which is 'better' for their needs. I agree that many of these studies are skewed one way or another. For example the figures used to promote the curve as the number 1 selling smartphone (over the iPhone 3Gs). ‘Curve’ was broadly defined as 5 distinct devices (including the completely different 8900), and compared against only the iPhone 3Gs (one device, which was not bundled with the 3G – which is contradictory considering the curve was bundled with all of its incarnations).

Having said all that everybody has different requirements, and will choose a device to suit, so I don’t think it is fair to say that one device is any any ‘better’ than another. BlackBerries do some things really well, and iPhones do other things really well, and it is up to the user to decide which is ‘better’ for their needs.

]]> By: Jim http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-505624 Jim Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-505624 I agree that many of these studies are skewed one way or another. For example the figures used to promote the curve as the number 1 selling smartphone (over the iPhone 3Gs). 'Curve' was broadly defined as 5 distinct devices (including the completely different 8900), and compared against only the iPhone 3Gs (one device, which was not bundled with the 3G - which is contradictory considering the curve was bundled with all of its incarnations). Having said all that everybody has different requirements, and will choose a device to suit, so I don't think it is fair to say that one device is any any 'better' than another. BlackBerries do some things really well, and iPhones do other things really well, and it is up to the user to decide which is 'better' for their needs. I agree that many of these studies are skewed one way or another. For example the figures used to promote the curve as the number 1 selling smartphone (over the iPhone 3Gs). ‘Curve’ was broadly defined as 5 distinct devices (including the completely different 8900), and compared against only the iPhone 3Gs (one device, which was not bundled with the 3G – which is contradictory considering the curve was bundled with all of its incarnations).

Having said all that everybody has different requirements, and will choose a device to suit, so I don’t think it is fair to say that one device is any any ‘better’ than another. BlackBerries do some things really well, and iPhones do other things really well, and it is up to the user to decide which is ‘better’ for their needs.

]]> By: BlackBerry Cool: Research Comparing iPhone and BlackBerry Often Flawed | Mobile Strategy http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-405205 BlackBerry Cool: Research Comparing iPhone and BlackBerry Often Flawed | Mobile Strategy Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:32:55 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-405205 [...] BlackBerry Cool: The research behind iPhone and BlackBerry comparisons that is making its way into the mainstream [...] [...] BlackBerry Cool: The research behind iPhone and BlackBerry comparisons that is making its way into the mainstream [...]

]]> By: Ben http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-405153 Ben Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:40:32 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-405153 Figures lie and liars figure, compare the Blackberry to the iPhone this way the BlackBerry is a Rolls Royce and the iPhone is a Chevrolet, both are cars and will serve you well if you care for them, one is just a much nicer car. Figures lie and liars figure, compare the Blackberry to the iPhone this way the BlackBerry is a Rolls Royce and the iPhone is a Chevrolet, both are cars and will serve you well if you care for them, one is just a much nicer car.

]]> By: Ben http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-405154 Ben Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:40:30 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-405154 Figures lie and liars figure, compare the Blackberry to the iPhone this way the BlackBerry is a Rolls Royce and the iPhone is a Chevrolet, both are cars and will serve you well if you care for them, one is just a much nicer car. Figures lie and liars figure, compare the Blackberry to the iPhone this way the BlackBerry is a Rolls Royce and the iPhone is a Chevrolet, both are cars and will serve you well if you care for them, one is just a much nicer car.

]]> By: Ben http://www.blackberrycool.com/2009/09/10/smartphone-research-comparing-iphone-and-blackberry-often-flawed/comment-page-1/#comment-405152 Ben Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:40:28 +0000 http://www.blackberrycool.com/?p=15544#comment-405152 Figures lie and liars figure, compare the Blackberry to the iPhone this way the BlackBerry is a Rolls Royce and the iPhone is a Chevrolet, both are cars and will serve you well if you care for them, one is just a much nicer car. Figures lie and liars figure, compare the Blackberry to the iPhone this way the BlackBerry is a Rolls Royce and the iPhone is a Chevrolet, both are cars and will serve you well if you care for them, one is just a much nicer car.

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