Consumer appeal cannot overshadow the real-world security requirements of the enterprise. The end-user employees of a company cannot be the ones to determine what technology is used. Management must make a strategic business decision for an overall network security model and implement it. If that means having no encryption and a wide-open network, then an iPhone will work great. If that mean a highly secure network with encrypted data from end-to-end, then Blackberry is the way to go.

Just my $.02.

Consumer appeal cannot overshadow the real-world security requirements of the enterprise. The end-user employees of a company cannot be the ones to determine what technology is used. Management must make a strategic business decision for an overall network security model and implement it. If that means having no encryption and a wide-open network, then an iPhone will work great. If that mean a highly secure network with encrypted data from end-to-end, then Blackberry is the way to go.

Just my $.02.

Google Has: docs, maps, mail, calendar, contacts, dbase and app engine, dns, cloud computing, voice/gtalk, Android, chromeOS and Chrome Browser
Rim Has: surepress, suretype, touchpad, security, encryption, BB messenger, VPN, BES, A Huge market, wireless technologies research.

Android would end up having, more security and enterprise tools like BES working together with a Google Apps enterprise account and VPN. Consumers (BIS) or Mixed users (BIS/BES) can haver better communication/collaboration tools (talk, bbm, voice in a single app), better PIM management (contacts, calendar, mail), better HTML5 Capable browser, a huge growing App market, an existing Computing Cloud with all apps and data there…lots of data centers (almost zero outages) hence, All OS compliant (using webapps), a lot of user market, marketing extension to mobile world, and more investment for hardware and software innovation.

This is the best fusion i can see in the near future for 2010…then launching the first phone by the end of 2011.

Google Has: docs, maps, mail, calendar, contacts, dbase and app engine, dns, cloud computing, voice/gtalk, Android, chromeOS and Chrome Browser
Rim Has: surepress, suretype, touchpad, security, encryption, BB messenger, VPN, BES, A Huge market, wireless technologies research.

Android would end up having, more security and enterprise tools like BES working together with a Google Apps enterprise account and VPN. Consumers (BIS) or Mixed users (BIS/BES) can haver better communication/collaboration tools (talk, bbm, voice in a single app), better PIM management (contacts, calendar, mail), better HTML5 Capable browser, a huge growing App market, an existing Computing Cloud with all apps and data there…lots of data centers (almost zero outages) hence, All OS compliant (using webapps), a lot of user market, marketing extension to mobile world, and more investment for hardware and software innovation.

This is the best fusion i can see in the near future for 2010…then launching the first phone by the end of 2011.

I have sat through 2 WES sessions on corporate / personal liable and the vast majority of companies want nothing to do with it. It’s a huge risk and you don’t save money if your are managing your carrier expenses. You also have the headache of dealing with all the personal usage users expect that you may have disabled (applications, SMS etc).

It’s 2010 this is no longer about getting email access. That was 2003, if your still trying to figure out mobile email your so far behind the curve. Good, Mobile Iron and the rush of others are making great progress but are really asset management and mobile email based. Compared to BES they are limited to device security provided by Microsoft ActiveSync (EAS). You have little to no application deployment / management (a huge thing considering the action in this space). Device side encryption is limited and now a requirement due to a number of states that have regulations around consumer data.

It all comes down to cost. These other solutions are not as cost effective as BES. The cost for us if we did one of the platforms is 3x the current BES CAL cost we have procured. So spend more and get less? Great for the user but not the enterprise, even moreso if these are personal liable. Who covers that CAL cost? Should enterprise cover that? Still cheaper to deploy a Blackberry.

We took a hard stand last year after waiting for Apple to meet the security needs. They obviously have no desire to do more and we can’t wait for their yearly response on what is new / fixed (as they won’t share any roadmap). Windows mobile is just a mess and Droid doesn’t even support EAS security settings. So it’s Blackberry only. It meets out needs, we can manage as granular as we want and our cost is low. We’ll continue to monitor the other platforms but from an enterprise perspective – their focus is on the consumer.

I have sat through 2 WES sessions on corporate / personal liable and the vast majority of companies want nothing to do with it. It’s a huge risk and you don’t save money if your are managing your carrier expenses. You also have the headache of dealing with all the personal usage users expect that you may have disabled (applications, SMS etc).

It’s 2010 this is no longer about getting email access. That was 2003, if your still trying to figure out mobile email your so far behind the curve. Good, Mobile Iron and the rush of others are making great progress but are really asset management and mobile email based. Compared to BES they are limited to device security provided by Microsoft ActiveSync (EAS). You have little to no application deployment / management (a huge thing considering the action in this space). Device side encryption is limited and now a requirement due to a number of states that have regulations around consumer data.

It all comes down to cost. These other solutions are not as cost effective as BES. The cost for us if we did one of the platforms is 3x the current BES CAL cost we have procured. So spend more and get less? Great for the user but not the enterprise, even moreso if these are personal liable. Who covers that CAL cost? Should enterprise cover that? Still cheaper to deploy a Blackberry.

We took a hard stand last year after waiting for Apple to meet the security needs. They obviously have no desire to do more and we can’t wait for their yearly response on what is new / fixed (as they won’t share any roadmap). Windows mobile is just a mess and Droid doesn’t even support EAS security settings. So it’s Blackberry only. It meets out needs, we can manage as granular as we want and our cost is low. We’ll continue to monitor the other platforms but from an enterprise perspective – their focus is on the consumer.

I have sat through 2 WES sessions on corporate / personal liable and the vast majority of companies want nothing to do with it. It’s a huge risk and you don’t save money if your are managing your carrier expenses. You also have the headache of dealing with all the personal usage users expect that you may have disabled (applications, SMS etc).

It’s 2010 this is no longer about getting email access. That was 2003, if your still trying to figure out mobile email your so far behind the curve. Good, Mobile Iron and the rush of others are making great progress but are really asset management and mobile email based. Compared to BES they are limited to device security provided by Microsoft ActiveSync (EAS). You have little to no application deployment / management (a huge thing considering the action in this space). Device side encryption is limited and now a requirement due to a number of states that have regulations around consumer data.

It all comes down to cost. These other solutions are not as cost effective as BES. The cost for us if we did one of the platforms is 3x the current BES CAL cost we have procured. So spend more and get less? Great for the user but not the enterprise, even moreso if these are personal liable. Who covers that CAL cost? Should enterprise cover that? Still cheaper to deploy a Blackberry.

We took a hard stand last year after waiting for Apple to meet the security needs. They obviously have no desire to do more and we can’t wait for their yearly response on what is new / fixed (as they won’t share any roadmap). Windows mobile is just a mess and Droid doesn’t even support EAS security settings. So it’s Blackberry only. It meets out needs, we can manage as granular as we want and our cost is low. We’ll continue to monitor the other platforms but from an enterprise perspective – their focus is on the consumer.

I would challenge a few statements here:”I would be surprised if there is even 1 major organization that has rolled out iPhones across a network in the thousands of devices.”

Oracle is one, and a number of other Fortune 500 companies as well. They are mainly utilizing tools such as MobileIron, Sybase iAnywhere Mobile Office, GOOD Messaging, etc..

“This is where the iPhone sits in business, as a gadget that a few in the organization want, and IT isn’t elated about.”

That is entirely incorrect, most employees have iPhones personally and love them and continually ask when they can connect to their work email. We’ve had a number of BB users give up their BB’s and use OWA with their iPhone because they prefer it to the BB.

What it boils down to is that the consumer appeal will bleed and cross over into the Enterprise territory. Companies like Sybase and GOOD will allow Enterprises to separate the consumer aspect and the Enterprise data on those devices in a manner that appease Security and Corporate Risk departments.

3rd Party Vendors are bridging the gap, so it’s up to Businesses if they want to make an investment to support consumer based devices such as the iPhone in their Enterprise environments. I’m going through this right now with my company.

I would challenge a few statements here:”I would be surprised if there is even 1 major organization that has rolled out iPhones across a network in the thousands of devices.”

Oracle is one, and a number of other Fortune 500 companies as well. They are mainly utilizing tools such as MobileIron, Sybase iAnywhere Mobile Office, GOOD Messaging, etc..

“This is where the iPhone sits in business, as a gadget that a few in the organization want, and IT isn’t elated about.”

That is entirely incorrect, most employees have iPhones personally and love them and continually ask when they can connect to their work email. We’ve had a number of BB users give up their BB’s and use OWA with their iPhone because they prefer it to the BB.

What it boils down to is that the consumer appeal will bleed and cross over into the Enterprise territory. Companies like Sybase and GOOD will allow Enterprises to separate the consumer aspect and the Enterprise data on those devices in a manner that appease Security and Corporate Risk departments.

3rd Party Vendors are bridging the gap, so it’s up to Businesses if they want to make an investment to support consumer based devices such as the iPhone in their Enterprise environments. I’m going through this right now with my company.

Apple is playing consumer only and allowing companies to add it to their devices. Bank of America will allow people to bring their own phones including the iPhone.

The itab or islate may further pulls enterprise towards Apple. Thinking police, doctors, lawfirm using them as intake form tablets.

Rimm’s big test will be when Apple finishes their gigantic server farm in North Carolina and opens up mobile me to enterprise. If they offer Rimm like services without the need for a blackberry server, Rimm may lose lots of their smaller enterprise customers to a cheaper alternative.