Read this link Google cancels plans for Nexus One CDMA release on Verizon!

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/04/26/g…

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/04/26/g…

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/13/technology/companies/13google.html?scp=2&sq=Google%20Nexus

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/13/technology/companies/13google.html?scp=2&sq=Google%20Nexus

It will be an interesting situation to see how they price their devices based on what they think they will get back from it. IE you sign up for a 3 year Google account that must report once a week to their servers to collect data and ensure you don’t stop it. This will allow them to give you a device at a lower price. Next to that they could still make deals with GSM providers to say if we sell our phone and get a 3 year contract with you will you give us kick back for the device. Its not having the providers sell the devices but including them on the sale just like dell sells ISP connections with their computers.

It will be interesting to see carriers start offering $10-$15 a month plan if you sign up for 3 year/2 year contracts with them and that way your plan is cheaper only because you never had to buy a phone from them. Because what is to keep you with them if the next provider can offer the same package and price there needs to be something for the consumer to win. If I am going to pay $60 a month and get no phone and no kick back on plans why stay with a carrier. even still some carriers are requiring a 1 year min contract with a new service with no phone purchase in Canada.

It will for sure interesting to see what happens.

It will be an interesting situation to see how they price their devices based on what they think they will get back from it. IE you sign up for a 3 year Google account that must report once a week to their servers to collect data and ensure you don’t stop it. This will allow them to give you a device at a lower price. Next to that they could still make deals with GSM providers to say if we sell our phone and get a 3 year contract with you will you give us kick back for the device. Its not having the providers sell the devices but including them on the sale just like dell sells ISP connections with their computers.

It will be interesting to see carriers start offering $10-$15 a month plan if you sign up for 3 year/2 year contracts with them and that way your plan is cheaper only because you never had to buy a phone from them. Because what is to keep you with them if the next provider can offer the same package and price there needs to be something for the consumer to win. If I am going to pay $60 a month and get no phone and no kick back on plans why stay with a carrier. even still some carriers are requiring a 1 year min contract with a new service with no phone purchase in Canada.

It will for sure interesting to see what happens.

I have been with BlackBerry since the pre-phone days, when they were just 2-way pagers. Although I think they’re amazing, well-built phones (for the most part), I feel like I’m ready to move on. Since I’m already with T-Mobile, it’s going to be an easy transition. The only learning curve I have ahead of me is the on-screen keyboard!

BlackBerry has failed me in these areas- multimedia, processor speed, browser speed and functionality (although the latest is much better), and some of their phones are very cheaply made. I have the 8900 now. Loved the phone when I first got it, and haven’t had any problems. BUT, I’ve read more reviews on how people have had to return them for faulty parts than I care to admit to any iphone user. Some people going through more than 3 8900′s before finally getting a keeper. The keyboard on my phone moves around worse than a fake floor-model phone (luckily it doesn’t effect typing), and the “chrome” trim turned out to be made of plastic. Seemed like a lame shortcut.

Also, I’ve heard so many bad reviews of the Storm, it’s sad. I’m afraid BlackBerry may be losing in the phone race over the long term. I hope they can adapt! But it’s going to take a lot, I fear.

I have been with BlackBerry since the pre-phone days, when they were just 2-way pagers. Although I think they’re amazing, well-built phones (for the most part), I feel like I’m ready to move on. Since I’m already with T-Mobile, it’s going to be an easy transition. The only learning curve I have ahead of me is the on-screen keyboard!

BlackBerry has failed me in these areas- multimedia, processor speed, browser speed and functionality (although the latest is much better), and some of their phones are very cheaply made. I have the 8900 now. Loved the phone when I first got it, and haven’t had any problems. BUT, I’ve read more reviews on how people have had to return them for faulty parts than I care to admit to any iphone user. Some people going through more than 3 8900′s before finally getting a keeper. The keyboard on my phone moves around worse than a fake floor-model phone (luckily it doesn’t effect typing), and the “chrome” trim turned out to be made of plastic. Seemed like a lame shortcut.

Also, I’ve heard so many bad reviews of the Storm, it’s sad. I’m afraid BlackBerry may be losing in the phone race over the long term. I hope they can adapt! But it’s going to take a lot, I fear.

I have been with BlackBerry since the pre-phone days, when they were just 2-way pagers. Although I think they’re amazing, well-built phones (for the most part), I feel like I’m ready to move on. Since I’m already with T-Mobile, it’s going to be an easy transition. The only learning curve I have ahead of me is the on-screen keyboard!

BlackBerry has failed me in these areas- multimedia, processor speed, browser speed and functionality (although the latest is much better), and some of their phones are very cheaply made. I have the 8900 now. Loved the phone when I first got it, and haven’t had any problems. BUT, I’ve read more reviews on how people have had to return them for faulty parts than I care to admit to any iphone user. Some people going through more than 3 8900′s before finally getting a keeper. The keyboard on my phone moves around worse than a fake floor-model phone (luckily it doesn’t effect typing), and the “chrome” trim turned out to be made of plastic. Seemed like a lame shortcut.

Also, I’ve heard so many bad reviews of the Storm, it’s sad. I’m afraid BlackBerry may be losing in the phone race over the long term. I hope they can adapt! But it’s going to take a lot, I fear.

As for free, we all know that if you wait long enough for ANY device (a couple of months these days) and are willing to pay the price elsewhere (read: 2-3 year contract), that SOMEONE will offer it to you for free.

As far as marketing goes, we are discussing this on a blackberry website filled with Google ad space, and the Nexus is what is sitting right next to the article in my browser.

While I would typically agree with most of the article, we are not talking about a typical company. We are talking about Google. A massive beast with a golden touch. I don’t think they’re killing any other phones or anything, but I sure don’t see this endeavor being anything close to a failure either.

As for free, we all know that if you wait long enough for ANY device (a couple of months these days) and are willing to pay the price elsewhere (read: 2-3 year contract), that SOMEONE will offer it to you for free.

As far as marketing goes, we are discussing this on a blackberry website filled with Google ad space, and the Nexus is what is sitting right next to the article in my browser.

While I would typically agree with most of the article, we are not talking about a typical company. We are talking about Google. A massive beast with a golden touch. I don’t think they’re killing any other phones or anything, but I sure don’t see this endeavor being anything close to a failure either.

It’s OK that you mainline the Google Kool Aid…one thing I understand clearly is religion…and clearly the above group HAVE IT!

What is lacking in your comments above is perspective! Do you have ANY idea now how many customers I hear complain about their phones that have done NOTHING about it for years!?! Some people just like to complain!

There are many “FREE” BlackBerry & iPhone offers out there…just “Google it” or walk into Radio Shack…so touche….you missed that one in your research! Those that don’t yet have free offers WILL…because consumers are sheep!

It’s OK that you mainline the Google Kool Aid…one thing I understand clearly is religion…and clearly the above group HAVE IT!

What is lacking in your comments above is perspective! Do you have ANY idea now how many customers I hear complain about their phones that have done NOTHING about it for years!?! Some people just like to complain!

There are many “FREE” BlackBerry & iPhone offers out there…just “Google it” or walk into Radio Shack…so touche….you missed that one in your research! Those that don’t yet have free offers WILL…because consumers are sheep!

It’s OK that you mainline the Google Kool Aid…one thing I understand clearly is religion…and clearly the above group HAVE IT!

What is lacking in your comments above is perspective! Do you have ANY idea now how many customers I hear complain about their phones that have done NOTHING about it for years!?! Some people just like to complain!

There are many “FREE” BlackBerry & iPhone offers out there…just “Google it” or walk into Radio Shack…so touche….you missed that one in your research! Those that don’t yet have free offers WILL…because consumers are sheep!

“it doesn’t matter how amazing your product is, you still need to market and sell it.”
What problems will google have with marketing and selling, millions (maybe billions) of people use google everyday. There is a link on their homepage (www.google.com). Millions of people can see it without google paying $.01 for advertising. And you can buy it directly from that page. Not to mention it is available subsidized from t-mobile, and already announced that it will available through Verizon, and Vodafone in the Spring.

“The first hurdle for Google will be to convince Motorola, HTC and other (now) third party manufacturers that this won’t impact them”
Umm.. maybe you should do A LITTLE bit of research.. HTC makes the Nexus One..
And yes, I can gree with you about one thing, this will be bad for Motorola.

“Secondly, by releasing Nexus One as a GSM unlocked Smartphone and selling direct, Google thumbs both nostrils at the carriers.”
Good. At some point their needs to be a separation from devices and carriers. Would you buy a computer subsidized from your cable provider?

“As I learned when REGARD was in the device business, it is really hard to sell against “Free”.”
Iphone isn’t free. Blackberry isn’t free. Droid isn’t free. People still buy them? Not to mention the the subsidized price of the nexus one from t-mobile is cheaper than the iphone and the droid (not sure the of the blackberry prices).

“For Nexus One to be successful, the go-to-market strategy will have to be one of differentiation and distribution through either well established carrier channels or they will have to revolutionize the distribution model as DELL did with a direct only sales model and killing everyone else on price. Presently, it looks as if they are doing neither.”
T-mobile and verizon are pretty well established carrier-channels, aren’t they?

“As for how the release of Nexus One impacts BlackBerry and iPhone? Until Google addresses the issues above, there will be no impact except slight cannibalization of their third party Android sales.”
I have an iphone, and i can’t wait to get rid of it for the N1. I know several people with blackberries who feel the same way, and also one person who bought a droid less than 30 days ago who is returning it and waiting for the N1 to come to verizon.

“Nonetheless, Nexus One looks amazing and, just in case everything I said above proves to be flat out wrong, I am ordering one today for my Android development team.”
You are definately wrong, go order a couple more.

“it doesn’t matter how amazing your product is, you still need to market and sell it.”
What problems will google have with marketing and selling, millions (maybe billions) of people use google everyday. There is a link on their homepage (www.google.com). Millions of people can see it without google paying $.01 for advertising. And you can buy it directly from that page. Not to mention it is available subsidized from t-mobile, and already announced that it will available through Verizon, and Vodafone in the Spring.

“The first hurdle for Google will be to convince Motorola, HTC and other (now) third party manufacturers that this won’t impact them”
Umm.. maybe you should do A LITTLE bit of research.. HTC makes the Nexus One..
And yes, I can gree with you about one thing, this will be bad for Motorola.

“Secondly, by releasing Nexus One as a GSM unlocked Smartphone and selling direct, Google thumbs both nostrils at the carriers.”
Good. At some point their needs to be a separation from devices and carriers. Would you buy a computer subsidized from your cable provider?

“As I learned when REGARD was in the device business, it is really hard to sell against “Free”.”
Iphone isn’t free. Blackberry isn’t free. Droid isn’t free. People still buy them? Not to mention the the subsidized price of the nexus one from t-mobile is cheaper than the iphone and the droid (not sure the of the blackberry prices).

“For Nexus One to be successful, the go-to-market strategy will have to be one of differentiation and distribution through either well established carrier channels or they will have to revolutionize the distribution model as DELL did with a direct only sales model and killing everyone else on price. Presently, it looks as if they are doing neither.”
T-mobile and verizon are pretty well established carrier-channels, aren’t they?

“As for how the release of Nexus One impacts BlackBerry and iPhone? Until Google addresses the issues above, there will be no impact except slight cannibalization of their third party Android sales.”
I have an iphone, and i can’t wait to get rid of it for the N1. I know several people with blackberries who feel the same way, and also one person who bought a droid less than 30 days ago who is returning it and waiting for the N1 to come to verizon.

“Nonetheless, Nexus One looks amazing and, just in case everything I said above proves to be flat out wrong, I am ordering one today for my Android development team.”
You are definately wrong, go order a couple more.

All you say of Google is true right NOW…they have just stepped into a NEW BUSINESS! The proof (as they say) will be in the pudding as to “IF” they can figure out how to run that business! Having worked for software companies, hardware companies and service providers…I can tell you each is a drastically different business. The potential for them to come out of this with their first big fat big black eye is high…IMHO!

Only time will tell!

All you say of Google is true right NOW…they have just stepped into a NEW BUSINESS! The proof (as they say) will be in the pudding as to “IF” they can figure out how to run that business! Having worked for software companies, hardware companies and service providers…I can tell you each is a drastically different business. The potential for them to come out of this with their first big fat big black eye is high…IMHO!

Only time will tell!