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I amm in India where Vodafone has not come with this upgrade. I use 8900. I deleted the vendor.xml file and then downloaded the 8900 OS update from Optus mobile as per link u sent above. It shows up in my BB desktop but when I try to update it will not let me do this . It says” Application is not compatible with your device. I have not downloaded the BB desktop manager again as I was already on version 5.01

I amm in India where Vodafone has not come with this upgrade. I use 8900. I deleted the vendor.xml file and then downloaded the 8900 OS update from Optus mobile as per link u sent above. It shows up in my BB desktop but when I try to update it will not let me do this . It says” Application is not compatible with your device. I have not downloaded the BB desktop manager again as I was already on version 5.01

I amm in India where Vodafone has not come with this upgrade. I use 8900. I deleted the vendor.xml file and then downloaded the 8900 OS update from Optus mobile as per link u sent above. It shows up in my BB desktop but when I try to update it will not let me do this . It says” Application is not compatible with your device. I have not downloaded the BB desktop manager again as I was already on version 5.01

the desktop manager on my PC just donesn’t detect the 5.0 version of software on blackberry 9530. I’m living in canada and using Telus as my carrier. But I did erase the vendor.xml file…

In short, nothing’s working. Period.

the desktop manager on my PC just donesn’t detect the 5.0 version of software on blackberry 9530. I’m living in canada and using Telus as my carrier. But I did erase the vendor.xml file…

In short, nothing’s working. Period.

Make sure to delete any other handheld software files you have on your PC.

Make sure to delete any other handheld software files you have on your PC.

I upgraded to 4.5 via the net and I was wondering if I could do that with 5.0 because the usb port to my phone is gone. Kinda hard to hook up without it.

I upgraded to 4.5 via the net and I was wondering if I could do that with 5.0 because the usb port to my phone is gone. Kinda hard to hook up without it.

wen i install the device sofware and i open the desktop manager it does not detect the update. its like i neva install the device software

wen i install the device sofware and i open the desktop manager it does not detect the update. its like i neva install the device software

I am located in the united states and have a curve 8900 with T-mobile as my service provider. I have blackberry desktop manager v5.0.1, my device is currently running os v4.6.1.231. I downloaded os v5.0.0.411 from optus mobile’s website, installed it to my pc, deleted the vendor.xml file, opened blackberry desktop manager, at which point it checked for updates and did not show that there was one available for my device. I then went to the application loader and clicked on start under update your device software. It then shows a list of three versions of the os which i have installed on my computer. One is 4.6.1.114(downgrade), 4.6.1.231(current), and 5.0.0.411, which has an asterick(*) next to it. Down at the bottom of the screen next to another asterick(*), is says “Only active Blackberry service subscribers are entitled to install this BlackBerry Device Software upgrade. I then checked the box next to os version 5.0.0.411 and then clicked next, at which point it goes to the update summary screen where it says “No software update is required for your device.” The only options from here are to go back to either the previous step or the main menu. I would greatly appreciate any help that you would be able to give me if at all possible. Thanks very much.

I am located in the united states and have a curve 8900 with T-mobile as my service provider. I have blackberry desktop manager v5.0.1, my device is currently running os v4.6.1.231. I downloaded os v5.0.0.411 from optus mobile’s website, installed it to my pc, deleted the vendor.xml file, opened blackberry desktop manager, at which point it checked for updates and did not show that there was one available for my device. I then went to the application loader and clicked on start under update your device software. It then shows a list of three versions of the os which i have installed on my computer. One is 4.6.1.114(downgrade), 4.6.1.231(current), and 5.0.0.411, which has an asterick(*) next to it. Down at the bottom of the screen next to another asterick(*), is says “Only active Blackberry service subscribers are entitled to install this BlackBerry Device Software upgrade. I then checked the box next to os version 5.0.0.411 and then clicked next, at which point it goes to the update summary screen where it says “No software update is required for your device.” The only options from here are to go back to either the previous step or the main menu. I would greatly appreciate any help that you would be able to give me if at all possible. Thanks very much.

Sam, the exact same thing has happened when i tried to install OS5 .411. shows in Desktop Manager but has the same (*) and comments. I’m with Orange.

If anyone can help let us know.

Thanks

James

Sam, the exact same thing has happened when i tried to install OS5 .411. shows in Desktop Manager but has the same (*) and comments. I’m with Orange.

If anyone can help let us know.

Thanks

James

Hi James & Sam,

Use the loader.exe to load up the app loader. That’s the easiest way to do it. Don’t use desktop manager.

The location of loader.exe is at the same folder of vendor.xml.

Good luck!

Hi James & Sam,

Use the loader.exe to load up the app loader. That’s the easiest way to do it. Don’t use desktop manager.

The location of loader.exe is at the same folder of vendor.xml.

Good luck!

it says remove or repair:S i did upgrade once then downgraded now it wont install it just says remove or repair and thru apploader it wont show it as an option either

it says remove or repair:S i did upgrade once then downgraded now it wont install it just says remove or repair and thru apploader it wont show it as an option either

Shizla, I just wanted to say thanks for the help on loading os 5.0 onto my device. Your advice worked perfectly.

Shizla, I just wanted to say thanks for the help on loading os 5.0 onto my device. Your advice worked perfectly.

Didnt work at first,the loaded it direct from the downloaded file using launcher.exe Worked a treat! Thanks

Didnt work at first,the loaded it direct from the downloaded file using launcher.exe Worked a treat! Thanks

whAT DO I DO

whAT DO I DO

i have a bold with OS 4.6, desktop manager does not find any updgrade and when im trying to do it with the app manager i says that i dont need any upgrade.. why?

i have a bold with OS 4.6, desktop manager does not find any updgrade and when im trying to do it with the app manager i says that i dont need any upgrade.. why?

any help?

any help?

Many Thanks Shizla,

Uploaded it through loader.exe and it worked a treat….i think it may actually be quicker then going through DM.

Thanks

James

Many Thanks Shizla,

Uploaded it through loader.exe and it worked a treat….i think it may actually be quicker then going through DM.

Thanks

James

I have a question. From where can I delete the vendor file? Where will I find it? I have the blackberry Curve 8900. another question I have is im from Pakistan but none of the networks here provide the upgrade. So is it safe to update my BB 8900 curve from software 4.6 to 5.1 through optus mobile? please somebody help me! thanks

I have a question. From where can I delete the vendor file? Where will I find it? I have the blackberry Curve 8900. another question I have is im from Pakistan but none of the networks here provide the upgrade. So is it safe to update my BB 8900 curve from software 4.6 to 5.1 through optus mobile? please somebody help me! thanks

used the loader file works great

used the loader file works great

im having so much isue installing my os 5.1
i tried everything and nothing, from deleting the xml file to downloading everything.
can someone please give me all the steps on one by one pleasee!!

im having so much isue installing my os 5.1
i tried everything and nothing, from deleting the xml file to downloading everything.
can someone please give me all the steps on one by one pleasee!!

hi..

I just successfully upgrade my curve 8900 to v5.0
The problem is my device can’t register/connect to BIS/Celcom..

How to address this?

Thanks

hi..

I just successfully upgrade my curve 8900 to v5.0
The problem is my device can’t register/connect to BIS/Celcom..

How to address this?

Thanks

I’m on Win7-64b and vendor.xml was also found under C:Users%USERNAME%AppDataLocalVirtualStoreProgram Files (x86)Common FilesResearch In MotionAppLoader

…apart from the “usual” C:Program Files (x86)Common FilesResearch In MotionAppLoader location. I had to remove both to get the upgrade going.

I’m on Win7-64b and vendor.xml was also found under C:\Users\%USERNAME%\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Research In Motion\AppLoader

…apart from the “usual” C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Research In Motion\AppLoader location. I had to remove both to get the upgrade going.

Please Help – BB Bold
I have the same problem like Sam and James.
I have OS v5.0.0.190 installed in my PC. When I trying upgrade OS by Desktop manager/AppLoader/ update software, this OS is in table to install but with a star next to it. Like Sam wrote.
And when I’m trying Loader.exe, it doesn’t offer this OS. Just applications installed in BB.
I don’t have BlackBerry Service active. If anyone know, please help me.
Thank You…
P.S. sorry for my English, I’m student yet…

Please Help – BB Bold
I have the same problem like Sam and James.
I have OS v5.0.0.190 installed in my PC. When I trying upgrade OS by Desktop manager/AppLoader/ update software, this OS is in table to install but with a star next to it. Like Sam wrote.
And when I’m trying Loader.exe, it doesn’t offer this OS. Just applications installed in BB.
I don’t have BlackBerry Service active. If anyone know, please help me.
Thank You…
P.S. sorry for my English, I’m student yet…

So problem is solved.
This thread helped me: http://www.blackberryforums.com/beta-you-than-me/210493-updating-v-5-0-0-348-a.html

Check the LAST POST!!!

“You can do an update without an active subscription by doing a “stealth” OS reload.

Delete the Vendor.xml file located at c:program filescommon filesresearch in motionapploader

Run Loader.exe from that directory.

Pull the battery from your device, and put it back in. Plug in the BB and IMMEDIATELY click the “next” button – here’s where you want to make sure the port shows USB: UNKNOWN.

If it shows the PIN, you were too slow. Try again.

Basically, you’re loading an OS from the bottom up. There is no “backup/restore” available for this. You’ll lose everything on the device.

But it will work.”

So problem is solved.
This thread helped me: http://www.blackberryforums.com/beta-you-than-me/210493-updating-v-5-0-0-348-a.html

Check the LAST POST!!!

“You can do an update without an active subscription by doing a “stealth” OS reload.

Delete the Vendor.xml file located at c:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader

Run Loader.exe from that directory.

Pull the battery from your device, and put it back in. Plug in the BB and IMMEDIATELY click the “next” button – here’s where you want to make sure the port shows USB: UNKNOWN.

If it shows the PIN, you were too slow. Try again.

Basically, you’re loading an OS from the bottom up. There is no “backup/restore” available for this. You’ll lose everything on the device.

But it will work.”

Hi,How do you upgrade to OS v5.0.0.411 if you do not have a szervice subscription? I've downloaded the OS install file and tried to run loader.exe but cannot find where to install the OSthanks,

Hi,

How do you upgrade to OS v5.0.0.411 if you do not have a szervice subscription? I've downloaded the OS install file and tried to run loader.exe but cannot find where to install the OS

thanks,

mine is an unlocked blackberry storm 9530, can i upgrade to the new os? if so whether i will lose my unlock or not?
thank you

Very good tutorial!

Doesn't work….. Doing everything as it's written here. Niether Desktop Manager nor Loader.exe shows the new OS…

when i install the OS on my computer and I connect my phone and open the desktop manager I cannot upgrade… what is wrong?

Hi Vojta,
It worked fine as you described! This trick is so foxy and powerful as well

Thanks alot.

Is it possible to load this on a mac? The OS file is a .exe and I can't seem to find the .dmg mac file, if it even exist.

Hi I was trying to update my Blackberry Bold after downloading your latest software for the Mac, but it froze about 3/4 of the way through and after waiting for half an hour I had to unplug the phone…now it won't start up at all….nothing! Can you help? Thankyou

I don´t thik so; I just updated the OS on my unlocked Curve 8900 yesterday and it work fine!!

You are my hero. I couldn't figure out for the life of me why I couldn't upgrade. I had that extra vendor.xml as well.

Thanks for this, it is now installing v5. The desktop app kept installing the same v4.5 :-/

alright, for some strange reason. I have a blackberry curve 8900 but it is not on a data plan. When I tried to download the 5.o version it would not allow me. Why is this? and what can I do so that it will download?

Tried doing this to, but its not working . When it is plugged in there is no next button, the phone just starts to reload

Hi
I have a storm 9520 on MTN contract in South Africa. I installed latest OS on PC and also have latest Desktop manager. I deleted the vendor file under apploader folder, but the newest os does not get detected. I currently run V5.0.0.436 which is the carrier's official update. Can the phone be locked for upgrade for the device software? If so, how do I unlock it?

I tried the battery pull and it still did not work. It will only install the official version from my carrier (MTN, South Africa). If I delete the MTN version and only have the latest version (non MTN) installed it will not allow installation, it basically does not pic it up and give some message about no software compatible. Can a carrier block upgrades? I did delete the vendor fileas well. I did not have this problem with my storm 1.
HELP?

hey , when i upgraded my storm 1 , i lost my mms … and when i try to use util crack .. i cant bring up my files , so i tried to do it through windows … but when i go to “research in motion” i dont have shared/loader files …. i have no idea what to do or how to locate that

please help! haha

Great stuff man, I never knew there was another copy. And thanks for the exact location. I would have never found the VirtualStore.

thank u so much

thank u so much

I upgraded my 9700 to 9700M_PBr5.0.0_rel994_PL5.1.0.146_A5.0.0.586_COSMOTE as described here, all worked perfectly as described with only one small, but nevertheless anoying feature, the keyboard lock function has disapeared! The padlock icon is not anywhere to be found and no option to select 'keylock' on menu dropdowns. Anyone seen this and can advise how to get it back or is it available anywhere as a seperate component download?

Thank you very much for tha tips my friends!!!!!!! ))
I've updated my bb 8520 curve to 5.0 official wind hellas with just a few clicks!
Perfect job!

Thanks. After following your tip I was able to successfully install OS 5 on my Bold 9000 from AT&T. Kudos!

Hello I have the same problem, the only way to bypass the Blackberry service thing is to click on the loader application in the same exact location where you deleted the “vendor” file.
So don't use the desktop manager, use the loader application where you deleted the “vendor” file. Hope this helps!!!

Hi,
Well, I red all the comments and suggestions. I have few questions/problems, hope you guys will give good suggestions. I live in Saudi Arabia and purchased Storm 9500 Voda phone from UK and got it un locked and now i want to upgrade it to OS 5, I do not have its service from local operator. I just want to upgrade to OS5.

1. I installed both Desktop/Device software for Storm 9500.
There is no instruction what to do you with the Device software, after installing device software i do not see its short cut or no idea where to run it.
2. If I run the app loader and do as per giving idea of pulling battery,
what will happen after that………..i will lose my all contacts, data etc and cannot restore, is that you wanna say.
3. where to get that OS Upgrade which I installed ( Device software)

Thanks
Major Code

i dont know how to save the apploader file after deleting vendor.xml?
i cant upgrade mine..help me pls

Thanks for your tutor…. Thank you very much… it's working for my BB Curve 8520.. Thanks Again..

Is there any way to update a storm 9530 without being subscribed to the network?

Hi I am a mac user and I have a bold 9000 with software version of 4.6 and my blackberry desktop manager cant upgrade my software actually it says there is no upgrade and I have the latest!!! what should I do?

I think you can – I struggled with this for a while. I think the solution was to do a stealth OS load. Without typing 5 pages of instructions, here's the sum up:

1. Back up the device using Desktop Manager.
2. Unplug the device.
3. Close Desktop Manager.
4. Run Loader.exe (NOT Desktop Manager).
5. Pull the battery from the BB, and put it back in.
6. QUICKLY plug in the device.

The application loader should read USB: UNKNOWN if you did this properly. Click Next when you see that.

That will basically ignore the OS that is on the device, and load the newest one from scratch. It will NOT back up your BB, because the OS never gets a chance to fully boot. That's why you have to back up before you start this.

Also, if something goes wrong, it's possible to brick your phone doing this. But of the hundreds I've done, I've only bricked 2 or 3. So it's not common.

WARNING V5 Upgrade(UK Only)
Please note that all domestic users of Blackberry Phones irrespective of model cannot upgrade to the latest V5 of the Blackberry operating system.

In the UK, Version 5 needs a Blackberry Enterprise Server to host this version. it is only available here and of use to companies and corporates who have Enterprise Server installed on their Network. It is useless to domestic customers of the normal mobile providers e.g. Orange, O2, Tmobile, etc who do not provide Blackberry Enterprise Server. The latest Version for domestic Blackberry users is V4.6.1.134 for the Blackberry 8520 and above and cannot be upgraded further at this time. Plugging the phone into Blackberry Desktop Manager periodically will automatically provide all available upgrades

Many users think they can access V5 by downloading Blackberry AppWorld to their phone. Don't even try. AppWorld is a huge memory intensive catalogue and downloading this to your phone will gobble up most of its memory and your phone can grind to a halt. Even if you were successful- V5 is no use to you anyway, as per above.

will i loose my unlock?

I have an unlocked Verizon Storm that I use in a different CDMA network. If I do this stealth install, will that change the settings on my phone & become unusable in the current cdma network?

I've successfully updated my BB 8520 using the stealth OS load. Thanks

I have tried everything and I cannot seem to get my bold 9000 from AT&T to upgrade! It doesnt say that i have the 5.0 installed on my computer and I do. I have installed it as well as deleted the vendor.xml file. I however cannot find the folder that was mentioned under Users like Marv stated.

I have an unlocked Verizon Storm that I use in a different CDMA network. If I do this stealth install, will that change the settings on my phone & become unusable in the current cdma network?

I have a Curve 8520. I have downloaded the correct Device Software v5.0, installed it, deleted the vendor.xml file but it is still not working.
I also have tried every trick on this thread (uploading from AppLoader), from Desktop Manager (v5.0.1), etc.
Even my PC says the software is installed. However I still can't upgrade. Please help.

thank u so much vojta i was trying and try and thing got it the 1st go round! High 5!
#TEAMBLACKBERRY

Hi
From loader.exe where do I browse to in the computer to install v5? I cant use DM as I dont have BIS activated!
Please guide me in installing it via loader.exe in the folder where vendor.xml is located in.
Thanks

Me too. I have the latest version available from AT&T which is the 4.6. I could not find the vendor file that we are supposed to be deleting so I think that's why we can't upgrade. That and the 5.0 version I downloaded is in .exe format and that doesn't work on my computer.

What are we supposed to do if we're mac users?

The correct answer is….to run the loader in dos and use the following command

Loader.exe /nojvm this will upgrade your blackberry to os 5 as long as you have deleted the vendor.xml file and have the latest OS 5 downloaded. I also got the message I need to have a plan etc..when using the Desktop Manager.

The way to get around this is to use the loader with a command. Go into dos and get to the loader directory its in c:program filescommon filesresearch in motionapploader
once you get here..type in loader /nojvm and you will get the app loader menu which will let you install the new version without complaining

You have to run the loader with /nojvm command

You LEGEND! make sure not to leave a space between the two words and it works like a dream! and its fast too THANK YOU!

Can't see the OS files on the Apploader list when I fire it up. What am I doing wrong, people?

nyc 1 man. ur a life saver. cheers!!

Worked like a charm! Had been trying to update my bberry for a while and now it's all good. Thank you so much!

hey kyle, i've got a Blackberry Bold 9000 and installed the v5.something, vodafone netherlands, exactly in the way you described. after installing my BB booted with the BlackBerry screen and the loading bar – filling ¾ and then it got stuck.
after 10 mins it rebooted and showed a white screen saying Reload software:507

i have no idea what to do.

your comments worked buddie! You have to be quick to remove the battery and plug it in.

ZOMG!!! THANKS!!!! I was gonna blow up some Claro office in DR (j/k) until I found this xD… But I was going crazy trying to find a solution

thnx Vojta(CZ)

you are a god among insects

it works it works!!!!

i fill out the guess thing just to tell everyone that it works ive been up all night for two day to try to get it to work too

thanks dude it worksss…

Is this PROCESS POSSIBLE WITHOUT BLACKBERRY SERVICES ?!! -

i love THE VOJTA(CZ).. SUCCESSFULLY UPDATED THROUGH STEALTH !!! MUUAAAHHHH

%USERNAME% refers to your user name… the one you use to log on into windows. I performed a search using %USERNAME% and (of course) i didnt find the folder. Now try changing it for your USER NAME and (just like i did) you'll find it and be able to delete it. I just upgraded my os following marv's advice. Cheers!

thanks dude

I'm having a little inconvenient with upgrading my software on to my Javelin! The software update process has started fine until the point when it gets to the step 'back-up third party applications'. At this point my phone has stopped displaying the computer to phone image on black bckgrd and is open to do pretty much anything. Its staying like this forever and I don't know what to do? My question is what am I supposed to do once it gets to this step! I don't wanna disconnect it unless i know its safe to do so can someone help me out!

i install BB desktop manager to my laptop version 5.0…what should next can do to update my device BB8900 with version 5.0?please anyone help…here my pin # 26284288.. joice

My device seems to have “hung” during the update process. It's been over 2 hours now and it says not to disconnect. Any suggestions?

Okay, THAT worked. running:

“C:Program FilesCommon FilesResearch In MotionAppLoaderLoader.exe” /nojvm

did the trick.

Mine has done the same thing! Any resolution?

I have an 8350i and according to the BB website it qualifies for the upgrade, however when i connect to the new 6.0.0.40 desktop software and have it look, it says no software update is available

thanks bor youre a life saver. i successfully updated my curve 8900 in pakistan.

Hi Ali , i m Faheem from Lahore
i wana know about 8900 Version 5 handheld Software , is ur cell active for all networks in Pakistan ???

im using Warid

Man… you are… you have just saved my life…
We bought this BB for the company since we are developing a BB widget without knowing that the device needed to have the OS 5 installed.
So we tried to upgrade it to no avail. With this, you just made this purchase not a waste.

Thanks a lot… Works so well…