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	<title>Comments on: Verizon Will Require Customers With BES Express to Upgrade Data Package</title>
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		<title>By: Tbad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tbad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 01:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The RIM webpage specifically says that all you need to use BESx is an &quot;internet&quot; plan, and that it will work with ANY internet data plan. without any enterprise data plan.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;and works with any Internet-enabled BlackBerry data plan or a BlackBerry enterprise data plan.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, when the salesdork at the VZW store says that &quot;BLACKBERRY&quot; is charging the extra fee, you can bet that their eyes are brown... and that &quot;BLACKBERRY&quot; requires VERIZON to charge the extra $15 for any phone connecting to a corporate email account.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The RIM webpage specifically says that all you need to use BESx is an &#8220;internet&#8221; plan, and that it will work with ANY internet data plan. without any enterprise data plan.</p>
<p>&#8220;and works with any Internet-enabled BlackBerry data plan or a BlackBerry enterprise data plan.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, when the salesdork at the VZW store says that &#8220;BLACKBERRY&#8221; is charging the extra fee, you can bet that their eyes are brown&#8230; and that &#8220;BLACKBERRY&#8221; requires VERIZON to charge the extra $15 for any phone connecting to a corporate email account.</p>
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		<title>By: nasigoreng</title>
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		<dc:creator>nasigoreng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Al I have the same problem. OTA enterprise activation failed, but with cable and webdesktop the activation worked. After this the user can send emails but not receive any. All the bitching to Verizon makes sense since there is no documentation on what is supported on what plan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Al I have the same problem. OTA enterprise activation failed, but with cable and webdesktop the activation worked. After this the user can send emails but not receive any. All the bitching to Verizon makes sense since there is no documentation on what is supported on what plan.</p>
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		<title>By: wow</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/03/12/verizon-will-require-customers-with-bes-express-to-upgrade-data-package/comment-page-1/#comment-472859</link>
		<dc:creator>wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 09:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, what a lot of bitching, whining, and complaining from people who are already getting a free BES, probably not even paying for CALs, and are now crying because BES functionality isn&#039;t available without an enterprise-type data plan. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems pretty clear (to me at least) that RIM&#039;s FAQ was specifically addressing their own licensing fees and not trying to dictate tiered data plan functionality for every access provider they work with.  I&#039;m frankly amazed people are making that assumption.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what a lot of bitching, whining, and complaining from people who are already getting a free BES, probably not even paying for CALs, and are now crying because BES functionality isn&#39;t available without an enterprise-type data plan. </p>
<p>It seems pretty clear (to me at least) that RIM&#39;s FAQ was specifically addressing their own licensing fees and not trying to dictate tiered data plan functionality for every access provider they work with.  I&#39;m frankly amazed people are making that assumption.</p>
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		<title>By: haterim</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/03/12/verizon-will-require-customers-with-bes-express-to-upgrade-data-package/comment-page-1/#comment-471477</link>
		<dc:creator>haterim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 04:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its a lie, RIM implies that you can activate using Desktop manager but only if you have a computer in the same domain as the Blackberry server.  RIM sucks and I hope they die a speedy death so we don&#039;t have to deal with their terrible products.  Iphones and Droids work, Blackberrys don&#039;t unless you pay pay pay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a lie, RIM implies that you can activate using Desktop manager but only if you have a computer in the same domain as the Blackberry server.  RIM sucks and I hope they die a speedy death so we don&#39;t have to deal with their terrible products.  Iphones and Droids work, Blackberrys don&#39;t unless you pay pay pay.</p>
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		<title>By: ButlerBulldawgFan</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/03/12/verizon-will-require-customers-with-bes-express-to-upgrade-data-package/comment-page-1/#comment-470316</link>
		<dc:creator>ButlerBulldawgFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 16:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i was not able to activate my new BB with besx this week using any method..usb/ota.  had I seen this post earlier, I would have gone with AT&amp;T.&lt;br&gt;screw you verizon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was not able to activate my new BB with besx this week using any method..usb/ota.  had I seen this post earlier, I would have gone with AT&#038;T.<br />screw you verizon.</p>
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		<title>By: ButlerBulldawgFan</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/03/12/verizon-will-require-customers-with-bes-express-to-upgrade-data-package/comment-page-1/#comment-469031</link>
		<dc:creator>ButlerBulldawgFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 11:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i was not able to activate my new BB with besx this week using any method..usb/ota.  had I seen this post earlier, I would have gone with AT&amp;T.&lt;br&gt;screw you verizon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was not able to activate my new BB with besx this week using any method..usb/ota.  had I seen this post earlier, I would have gone with AT&#038;T.<br />screw you verizon.</p>
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		<title>By: BOBO</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/03/12/verizon-will-require-customers-with-bes-express-to-upgrade-data-package/comment-page-1/#comment-469021</link>
		<dc:creator>BOBO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OTA is supported on BESX with BES data.  Transporter tool works too.  Then you just downgrade your data plan after you migrated everyone and enjoy hundreds in savings a year per user with no licenses or higher BES fees.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OTA is supported on BESX with BES data.  Transporter tool works too.  Then you just downgrade your data plan after you migrated everyone and enjoy hundreds in savings a year per user with no licenses or higher BES fees.</p>
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		<title>By: Justmad</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/03/12/verizon-will-require-customers-with-bes-express-to-upgrade-data-package/comment-page-1/#comment-468166</link>
		<dc:creator>Justmad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is incredible - does Verizon have any thought how easy this could be for their customers? time to search for another provider....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is incredible &#8211; does Verizon have any thought how easy this could be for their customers? time to search for another provider&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/03/12/verizon-will-require-customers-with-bes-express-to-upgrade-data-package/comment-page-1/#comment-467594</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why doesn&#039;t RIM just develop and ActiveSync solution for Verizon customers?  F*** Verizon.  An iPhone is looking better every day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why doesn&#39;t RIM just develop and ActiveSync solution for Verizon customers?  F*** Verizon.  An iPhone is looking better every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/03/12/verizon-will-require-customers-with-bes-express-to-upgrade-data-package/comment-page-1/#comment-467576</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[VERIZON again you show your true colors. I hope people spread the word that a cable sync activation will work just fine. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;VERIZON your worse the ATT, at least ATT is a dick to your face.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VERIZON again you show your true colors. I hope people spread the word that a cable sync activation will work just fine. </p>
<p>VERIZON your worse the ATT, at least ATT is a dick to your face.</p>
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		<title>By: Verizon continues to be a bunch of greedy bastards &#124; Juan&#39;s Spot</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/03/12/verizon-will-require-customers-with-bes-express-to-upgrade-data-package/comment-page-1/#comment-467549</link>
		<dc:creator>Verizon continues to be a bunch of greedy bastards &#124; Juan&#39;s Spot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 01:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] March 12, 2010 7:00 pm Good &#8216;ol Verizon continues to be the gluttonous mobile phone carrier by forcing people to be on a higher cost plan if you decided to use the new BES express from BlackBerry.  And this is why I steer clear of Verizon.  Oh, and you&#8217;re no better AT&amp;T.  Article from blackberrycool.com is below and at http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/03/12/verizon-will-require-customers-with-bes-express-to-upgrade-... [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] March 12, 2010 7:00 pm Good &#8216;ol Verizon continues to be the gluttonous mobile phone carrier by forcing people to be on a higher cost plan if you decided to use the new BES express from BlackBerry.  And this is why I steer clear of Verizon.  Oh, and you&#8217;re no better AT&amp;T.  Article from blackberrycool.com is below and at <a href="http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/03/12/verizon-will-require-customers-with-bes-express-to-upgrade-" rel="nofollow">http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/03/12/verizon-will-require-customers-with-bes-express-to-upgrade-</a>&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BlackBerry Cool Roundup for the Week of March 8th &#124; BlackBerry Cool</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/03/12/verizon-will-require-customers-with-bes-express-to-upgrade-data-package/comment-page-1/#comment-467514</link>
		<dc:creator>BlackBerry Cool Roundup for the Week of March 8th &#124; BlackBerry Cool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Shows BlackBerry Dominates US Market Jim Balsillie Announces RIM to Produce BlackBerrys in Brazil Verizon Will Require Customers With BES Express to Upgrade Data Package BlackBerry Bold 9650 Launch Rumored in May [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Shows BlackBerry Dominates US Market Jim Balsillie Announces RIM to Produce BlackBerrys in Brazil Verizon Will Require Customers With BES Express to Upgrade Data Package BlackBerry Bold 9650 Launch Rumored in May [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/03/12/verizon-will-require-customers-with-bes-express-to-upgrade-data-package/comment-page-1/#comment-467478</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have installed BESX and am using Verizon. I did a tethered activation, and am able to wirelessly sync contacts, tasks, calander, and notes. I can send emails using BESX, but am not able to get any emails using BESX. I can however still use the BIS conduit to get emails. I&#039;ve tried just about everything to be able to get emails using BESX. It seems that Verizon is somehow blocking them. The BESX server says that the message was sent to the device, but it never gets there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have installed BESX and am using Verizon. I did a tethered activation, and am able to wirelessly sync contacts, tasks, calander, and notes. I can send emails using BESX, but am not able to get any emails using BESX. I can however still use the BIS conduit to get emails. I&#39;ve tried just about everything to be able to get emails using BESX. It seems that Verizon is somehow blocking them. The BESX server says that the message was sent to the device, but it never gets there.</p>
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		<title>By: Verizon To Make Customers With BES Express Upgrade Their Data Plans &#124; PocketBerry - Get the Latest BlackBerry News, Reviews, Themes and Games All in One Place. Berry User</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/03/12/verizon-will-require-customers-with-bes-express-to-upgrade-data-package/comment-page-1/#comment-467455</link>
		<dc:creator>Verizon To Make Customers With BES Express Upgrade Their Data Plans &#124; PocketBerry - Get the Latest BlackBerry News, Reviews, Themes and Games All in One Place. Berry User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Source: BlackBerry Cool [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/03/12/verizon-will-require-customers-with-bes-express-to-upgrade-data-package/comment-page-1/#comment-467445</link>
		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the carriers are not going to honor the agreement then RIM should not say &quot;you only need BIS&quot;. But I think the carrier can not restrict me from doing a tethered activation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the carriers are not going to honor the agreement then RIM should not say &#8220;you only need BIS&#8221;. But I think the carrier can not restrict me from doing a tethered activation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim L</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/03/12/verizon-will-require-customers-with-bes-express-to-upgrade-data-package/comment-page-1/#comment-467444</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hard to call it false advertising because RIM is still offering BESX, and the functionality it offers, for free. Verizon saw the word &quot;free&quot; though and quickly rectified the situation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hard to call it false advertising because RIM is still offering BESX, and the functionality it offers, for free. Verizon saw the word &#8220;free&#8221; though and quickly rectified the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It will work - but Verizon is not being very forthcoming in telling their clients that OTA activations will not work. They are just demanding you pay for BES Service. I have a user coming into the office later today and I will be trying the Tether method for activation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will work &#8211; but Verizon is not being very forthcoming in telling their clients that OTA activations will not work. They are just demanding you pay for BES Service. I have a user coming into the office later today and I will be trying the Tether method for activation.</p>
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		<title>By: RB</title>
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		<dc:creator>RB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Verizon being greedy. Here in the UK BES Express works fine on a BIS connection, there&#039;s no need to be paying extra for BES.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However if it is used on a BIS bolt on you can&#039;t activate OTA, it has to be done via cable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Verizon being greedy. Here in the UK BES Express works fine on a BIS connection, there&#39;s no need to be paying extra for BES.</p>
<p>However if it is used on a BIS bolt on you can&#39;t activate OTA, it has to be done via cable.</p>
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