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	<title>Comments on: Bad News: RIM Take an Additional 10% from BlackBerry Developers</title>
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		<title>By: BlackBerryCool Roundup for the Week of April 19th &#124; BlackBerry Cool</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/bad-news-rim-take-an-additional-10-from-blackberry-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-469959</link>
		<dc:creator>BlackBerryCool Roundup for the Week of April 19th &#124; BlackBerry Cool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Untethered Episode 4: Kik, Gym Technik, Chirp and Twitter for BlackBerry Bad News: RIM Take an Additional 10% from BlackBerry Developers The New App World Vendor Agreement Changes Mean Higher Prices Mike Lazaridis on Data Compression, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Untethered Episode 4: Kik, Gym Technik, Chirp and Twitter for BlackBerry Bad News: RIM Take an Additional 10% from BlackBerry Developers The New App World Vendor Agreement Changes Mean Higher Prices Mike Lazaridis on Data Compression, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle McInnes</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/bad-news-rim-take-an-additional-10-from-blackberry-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-470159</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle McInnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 00:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re definitely right Joe. I updated this article with more thoughts:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/the-new-app-world-vendor-agreement-changes-means-higher-prices/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/the-ne...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;UPDATE: I’ve been talking to more developers about this and lets just say that not everyone agrees with me. The message I’m getting is that while 30% seems like a lot, RIM’s margins with App World are going to be razor thin when they implement carrier billing. Carriers are going to want to take the majority of this 30%, if not all of it, and the lower revenue share may have been forced by the carriers themselves. While prices may go up in the short term to accommodate for this new revenue share agreement, prices may actually come down because more developers will see there is money to be made. More competition may ultimately drive prices down for everyone. Only time will tell.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#39;re definitely right Joe. I updated this article with more thoughts:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/the-new-app-world-vendor-agreement-changes-means-higher-prices/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/the-ne" rel="nofollow">http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/the-ne</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;UPDATE: I’ve been talking to more developers about this and lets just say that not everyone agrees with me. The message I’m getting is that while 30% seems like a lot, RIM’s margins with App World are going to be razor thin when they implement carrier billing. Carriers are going to want to take the majority of this 30%, if not all of it, and the lower revenue share may have been forced by the carriers themselves. While prices may go up in the short term to accommodate for this new revenue share agreement, prices may actually come down because more developers will see there is money to be made. More competition may ultimately drive prices down for everyone. Only time will tell.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle McInnes</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/bad-news-rim-take-an-additional-10-from-blackberry-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-469680</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle McInnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re definitely right Joe. I updated this article with more thoughts:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/the-new-app-world-vendor-agreement-changes-means-higher-prices/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/the-ne...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;UPDATE: I’ve been talking to more developers about this and lets just say that not everyone agrees with me. The message I’m getting is that while 30% seems like a lot, RIM’s margins with App World are going to be razor thin when they implement carrier billing. Carriers are going to want to take the majority of this 30%, if not all of it, and the lower revenue share may have been forced by the carriers themselves. While prices may go up in the short term to accommodate for this new revenue share agreement, prices may actually come down because more developers will see there is money to be made. More competition may ultimately drive prices down for everyone. Only time will tell.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#39;re definitely right Joe. I updated this article with more thoughts:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/the-new-app-world-vendor-agreement-changes-means-higher-prices/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/the-ne" rel="nofollow">http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/the-ne</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;UPDATE: I’ve been talking to more developers about this and lets just say that not everyone agrees with me. The message I’m getting is that while 30% seems like a lot, RIM’s margins with App World are going to be razor thin when they implement carrier billing. Carriers are going to want to take the majority of this 30%, if not all of it, and the lower revenue share may have been forced by the carriers themselves. While prices may go up in the short term to accommodate for this new revenue share agreement, prices may actually come down because more developers will see there is money to be made. More competition may ultimately drive prices down for everyone. Only time will tell.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ffsrim</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/bad-news-rim-take-an-additional-10-from-blackberry-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-469664</link>
		<dc:creator>ffsrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 03:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[pretty fucked&lt;br&gt;this plus&lt;br&gt;$200 credits for 10 app submission&lt;br&gt;lonnngggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg review times&lt;br&gt;==wtFUCK]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pretty fucked<br />this plus<br />$200 credits for 10 app submission<br />lonnngggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg review times<br />==wtFUCK</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/bad-news-rim-take-an-additional-10-from-blackberry-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-469658</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RIM was forced to change the rev share to 70/30 in order to accomodate carrier billing, and carrier billing is the key to getting pre-loaded on all devices.  The only way you will get App World on all devices is to get buy in from the carriers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RIM was forced to change the rev share to 70/30 in order to accomodate carrier billing, and carrier billing is the key to getting pre-loaded on all devices.  The only way you will get App World on all devices is to get buy in from the carriers.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/bad-news-rim-take-an-additional-10-from-blackberry-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-469659</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RIM was forced to change the rev share to 70/30 in order to accomodate carrier billing, and carrier billing is the key to getting pre-loaded on all devices.  The only way you will get App World on all devices is to get buy in from the carriers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RIM was forced to change the rev share to 70/30 in order to accomodate carrier billing, and carrier billing is the key to getting pre-loaded on all devices.  The only way you will get App World on all devices is to get buy in from the carriers.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthias Marquardt</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/bad-news-rim-take-an-additional-10-from-blackberry-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-469651</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthias Marquardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also have in mind, that we have to pay already 200,- bucks in advance for just being able to join AppWorld [and being allowed to submit 10 times a app] - Actually I would not mind, if this 20 bucks will be used to cover the reviewing costs - but with the new Agreement it&#039;s also said, that that RIM just &quot;might&quot; review a submitted app - in the past version of the documents it have been said, that they &quot;will&quot; review the submitted app...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;MobiHand is doing all that just for &quot;free&quot; - my Apps are always up2date without any kind of delay - and I am able to get up to 80%]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also have in mind, that we have to pay already 200,- bucks in advance for just being able to join AppWorld [and being allowed to submit 10 times a app] &#8211; Actually I would not mind, if this 20 bucks will be used to cover the reviewing costs &#8211; but with the new Agreement it&#39;s also said, that that RIM just &#8220;might&#8221; review a submitted app &#8211; in the past version of the documents it have been said, that they &#8220;will&#8221; review the submitted app&#8230;</p>
<p>MobiHand is doing all that just for &#8220;free&#8221; &#8211; my Apps are always up2date without any kind of delay &#8211; and I am able to get up to 80%</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle McInnes</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/bad-news-rim-take-an-additional-10-from-blackberry-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-469650</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle McInnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why would you take an additional 10% from the people who are trying to make your platform better in order to &quot;expand into new markets&quot;? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By taking 10% are you really going to increase your cashflow to a point where you wouldn&#039;t be able to expand otherwise? 10% is a lot of money for a small development team who are already feeling the effects of a recession.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is just a really bad business move.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you take an additional 10% from the people who are trying to make your platform better in order to &#8220;expand into new markets&#8221;? </p>
<p>By taking 10% are you really going to increase your cashflow to a point where you wouldn&#39;t be able to expand otherwise? 10% is a lot of money for a small development team who are already feeling the effects of a recession.</p>
<p>This is just a really bad business move.</p>
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		<title>By: Fabian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh really not cool!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh really not cool!!</p>
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		<title>By: Fabian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh really not cool!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh really not cool!!</p>
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		<title>By: Fabian</title>
		<link>http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/04/17/bad-news-rim-take-an-additional-10-from-blackberry-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-469649</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh really not cool!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh really not cool!!</p>
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